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Post by anyways on Jun 11, 2011 12:39:59 GMT -6
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Post by clovergirl on Jun 14, 2011 14:16:00 GMT -6
Later on this summer I'm gonna watch the whole box set over again. I just don't wanna start until I know I can finish it.
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Post by mondayschild on Jun 14, 2011 21:28:07 GMT -6
I definitely plan to rewatch this. Searing, but wonderful.
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Post by wkw99 on Jun 15, 2011 16:34:18 GMT -6
We're on our first time through. S2/E3 tonight.
Last night, the plaster was falling. OMG.
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Post by motorcitymade on Jun 15, 2011 20:57:34 GMT -6
just for you then Attachments:
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Post by wkw99 on Jun 16, 2011 4:48:17 GMT -6
Why, thank you.  |
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Post by mondayschild on Jun 16, 2011 9:28:01 GMT -6
Wow! Are you ever bringing back memories! I have to watch this again!
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Post by bookperson39 on Jun 16, 2011 16:32:02 GMT -6
We're on Season 3, Ep. 2 as well! Dang! We haven't been able to watch it for a while. Tomorrow may be the time.
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Post by motorcitymade on Jun 16, 2011 20:12:25 GMT -6
"A lie agreed upon" What a great title for Season2 E1 and E2.
...And the line "What ever will let us live...as we are now" Ahhh, I just love that . I just Ached for Alma, the poor dear. But Martha was a sharp one and seemed to know the score immedialy. After Martha took a look at Alma in that red dress, she figured she better get rid of the 'bundeling board' that Mr. Bullock installed in the bed. Who could blame her? LOL. Again, listen to the commentary that Molly Parker and Anna Gunn do together. They are two very smart women who understood their characters well.
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Post by motorcitymade on Jun 16, 2011 21:36:37 GMT -6
The big 'O" from TO. I am winding through these Quicktime vids from Mr. Skin to find just the right still. How much fun is this? Attachments:
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Post by clovergirl on Jun 17, 2011 4:56:35 GMT -6
"A lie agreed upon" What a great title for Season2 E1 and E2. ...And the line "What ever will let us live...as we are now" Ahhh, I just love that . I just Ached for Alma, the poor dear. But Martha was a sharp one and seemed to know the score immedialy. After Martha took a look at Alma in that red dress, she figured she better get rid of the 'bundeling board' that Mr. Bullock installed in the bed. Who could blame her? LOL. Again, listen to the commentary that Molly Parker and Anna Gunn do together. They are two very smart women who understood their characters well. Who hasn't wanted to freeze time at some point? Yes, Martha was a smart cookie, no doubt. She sized up that situation instantly. One of my favorite scenes ever was when they all met in the store. Standing in a circle, the little boy, the ladies. Everyone's eyes trying to take it all in. Seth trying not to give anything away. When Alma steps forward to give Martha her welcome basket Seth turns and moves his arm back a little, a little too quickly I think, to avoid accidentally touching her. There's all this polite conversation going on but meanwhile the tension is excrutiatingly thick. And then the lie. And everyone joins in. It's just brilliant. And the shot as Alma leaves the store is so perfect. Seth facing the camera, Alma facing opposite as she says goodbye to the boy. His eyes fixed straight ahead. No sideways glance. Now you see, I'm talking about season 2 and I haven't even started re-watching season 1 yet. I better catch up quick. |
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Post by motorcitymade on Jun 17, 2011 11:03:10 GMT -6
Yes, that is THE scene, isn't it?
That's the one I had in mind when last posting. I seem to keep referring to the commentaries in every post so here I go again:
In TO's 'keystone cops' style commentary on "A lie agreed upon" with Ian McShane, TO actually gets serious for a moment and wants to point out that VERY MOMENT when she hands over the basket and he moves away so not to touch her.
The problem is, the Boys have bantered over the actually moment.
'Wait, did she hand her the basket yet?'... 'Awww, I missed it', something like that .
He doesn't often like to take credit or speak about his work in a great scene so it's too bad that when he actually wanted to, the knuckleheads missed it.
And want a great scene it was. Alma went in to brush against him purposely and he wouldn't allow it. It was so beautifully awkward. They were just making mad passionate love a hour ago and *boom* the wife and kid show up.
Ahhh! Poor Alma.
I love those scenes where illicit lovers have to pretend there's not an elephant in the room. That one, with it's Victorian sensibilities so, so good.
( In the modern movie 'Coastlines' there's another one: "We have to act normal, I have to make dinner" line that is another good elephant in the room situation, BTW.)
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Post by clovergirl on Jun 17, 2011 14:39:48 GMT -6
He doesn't often like to take credit or speak about his work in a great scene so it's too bad that when he actually wanted to, the knuckleheads missed it.
Not knuckleheads.....hoopleheads!
Yes and don't forget that in between the mad sex with Alma and the wife and kid arriving, he had the fall over the balcony, knock-down drag-out street fight with Al! Blood running down his face one minute and the next he's gotta introduce his lover to his wife! Clearly not his day! My favorite episode.
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Post by motorcitymade on Jun 17, 2011 17:19:10 GMT -6
Oh, you're right, hoopelheads is what I should have said. Knuckelhead is just a word I use often at home for my spousal unit or my puppies.
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Post by motorcitymade on Jun 17, 2011 17:27:27 GMT -6
My favorite episode as well.
The one where the boy dies and one after it- 'The whores can come' are also tops on my list.
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Post by anyways on Jun 18, 2011 3:58:11 GMT -6
Last night I watched part of the episode where Al Swearengen's bladder stones are removed (it was on tv). That must be one of the most uncomfortable and weirdest things ever to be shown on a scripted tv show. I think I'll rewatch the whole of Deadwood again (wanted to watch just a bit of ep.1 recently and couldn't stop till it ended, it's like Fawlty Towers or Twin Peaks, you can rewatch it infinitely)
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Post by motorcitymade on Jun 18, 2011 8:49:36 GMT -6
Uh, I know! That was awful! tat was "Requiem for a 'Gleet' ", right? The Camera angle from above where 'Dan Dority', Doc and the others are all holding him down for that procedure makes me glad I live in the 21st century.
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Post by motorcitymade on Jun 18, 2011 10:52:17 GMT -6
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Post by wkw99 on Jun 21, 2011 4:23:21 GMT -6
We watched S2 episode 3 last night...and they what they did to Al made my husband sit really funny in his chair. LOL. I take it there's more in the next episode. Great. Yes, very glad I live in the 21st century. Anesthesia is a very very good thing.
My heart just aches for Seth and Alma. Gah. And despite knowing what happens later, I am liking William a lot. Damn.
I also managed to watch the Dinner for Five episode on Amazon. Thanks to whoever suggested it because I really enjoyed it. It was a bit odd to see TO with Seth's mustache and goatee though. I've never been much of a Jay Mohr fan, but he was so open and really seems like a straight up guy. I had forgotten he was in Go. I love Michael Rappaport! Been a fan since Boston Public, a show I loved that ended too soon. I also loved how open Milch was about being bipolar and Mohr discussing his panic attacks. That takes guts.
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Post by motorcitymade on Jun 21, 2011 6:14:21 GMT -6
I downloaded the Dinner for 5 episode a few weeks ago and watched it during my 'binge' of Timothy Olyphant material. I'm just coming up for air now.
Did you notice that he got cut off by those loudmouths ( Rapaport/Mohr) a couple of times...Tim just stopped talking and took a drink very politely.
And I agree about Seth and Alma...So Sad, but I liked Martha too and I wish that they would have explored that relationship more.
*spoiler alert*
I don't like how they handled Alma's pregnancy at all. "It becomes you" Seth tells her? come on!
How about, "Gee, sorry I knocked you up..... sorry I was so bad at pulling out,... told you, you shouldn't have gotten on top...." Something other than "It ( pregnancy) becomes you" for Christ sake. Is that supposed to be Victorian speak for "Can't do 'nothin to help 'ya, wifes in town, see 'ya"?
Seth never thanks Ellsworth,either. "Thanks for taking her off my hands" or anything of the sort. I think he would have done that, at least. You know that Seth knew it was his baby, Martha sure figured it out after the most ambiguous conversation with Alma.
(woman=smarter than men, again)
Seth is obviously upset when Alma starts to miscarry, but why not TELL the woman you're sorry. Milch, the greatest writer in television, ever, couldn't come up with something? Alma says to Seth that she doesn't regret anything; the dude just stand there! I thought maybe be he was a little dewey eyed when he visit her before she goes in for the abortion; but upon re watching he just walks out of the room after Alma's heartfelt "I'm NOT sorry it happened, now you're off the hook" speech.
I guess my spoiler speech turned into a rant. But Seth was an honorable guy, It's not like Martha didn't already know. Seth and Alma had a private moment before she goes in for that risky therapeutic abortion, and Milch gave Seth nothing but a deer in the headlights stare. Seth loved that woman. Milch should have given the talented Timothy Olyphant more to work with during that whole story line, I believe. instead of the helpless *oops* stare. End Rant.
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Post by wkw99 on Jun 21, 2011 7:06:36 GMT -6
Alma's pregnant? OK...I didn't know that.
That's alright...I don't mind spoilers. Obviously, I know the boy dies later. How I missed her being pregnant in the stuff I read I don't know.
I'll have to hold my opinion until I see the scene you're talking about, but maybe the reason Milch doesn't give Seth much to say is because he's really not capable of saying it. He's kind of...for want of a better expression...emotionally constipated.
Rapaport is a bit of a discussion hog. I didn't notice Mohr as much. He and TO seem to like each other a lot. TO is very polite, though. Noticed that right away.
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Post by mondayschild on Jun 21, 2011 15:15:15 GMT -6
I agree that Seth handled the pregnancy and loss of the baby very poorly. The man just was not very good with women. There were times that he could be tender, and he was getting better by the end, but sometimes I just wanted to grab him (oh, how I wanted to grab him,) and say, "If you're too much of a dork around a woman to say anything, at least put you arms around her!"
But I guess that was Seth Bullock. Broomstick up the ass and all business.
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Post by clovergirl on Jun 21, 2011 16:01:00 GMT -6
I downloaded the Dinner for 5 episode a few weeks ago and watched it during my 'binge' of Timothy Olyphant material. I'm just coming up for air now. Did you notice that he got cut off by those loudmouths ( Rapaport/Mohr) a couple of times...Tim just stopped talking and took a drink very politely. And I agree about Seth and Alma...So Sad, but I liked Martha too and I wish that they would have explored that relationship more. *spoiler alert* I don't like how they handled Alma's pregnancy at all. "It becomes you" Seth tells her? come on! How about, "Gee, sorry I knocked you up..... sorry I was so bad at pulling out,... told you, you shouldn't have gotten on top...." Something other than "It ( pregnancy) becomes you" for Christ sake. Is that supposed to be Victorian speak for "Can't do 'nothin to help 'ya, wifes in town, see 'ya"? Seth never thanks Ellsworth,either. "Thanks for taking her off my hands" or anything of the sort. I think he would have done that, at least. You know that Seth knew it was his baby, Martha sure figured it out after the most ambiguous conversation with Alma. (woman=smarter than men, again) Seth is obviously upset when Alma starts to miscarry, but why not TELL the woman you're sorry. Milch, the greatest writer in television, ever, couldn't come up with something? Alma says to Seth that she doesn't regret anything; the dude just stand there! I thought maybe be he was a little dewey eyed when he visit her before she goes in for the abortion; but upon re watching he just walks out of the room after Alma's heartfelt "I'm NOT sorry it happened, now you're off the hook" speech. I guess my spoiler speech turned into a rant. But Seth was an honorable guy, It's not like Martha didn't already know. Seth and Alma had a private moment before she goes in for that risky therapeutic abortion, and Milch gave Seth nothing but a deer in the headlights stare. Seth loved that woman. Milch should have given the talented Timothy Olyphant more to work with during that whole story line, I believe. instead of the helpless *oops* stare. End Rant. You're absolutely right. There should have been lots of things said, but this is Seth Bullock we're talking about. The more terrified he was the quieter he got. This man was wound so tight that I think if he expressed anything at that moment he wouldn't have been able to stop. Do you remember the scene with Charlie where he tells him about losing his brother. He starts to cry. (I cry every time I watch it) That was the most emotion we ever saw from him and it was over in about 15 seconds! And just like that he pulls him self back together and it's gone. I loved his heroic nature but this man had more than a few issues. |
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Post by wkw99 on Jun 21, 2011 17:37:26 GMT -6
Broomstick up the ass=emotionally constipated. Yep. That's Seth Bullock.
I think you're right. If he had started expressing any kind of emotion to Alma in that situation he would have come completely undone and (I'm sure in his thinking) made a fool of himself.
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Post by motorcitymade on Jun 21, 2011 20:20:33 GMT -6
Yeah, I get it but I think Milch should have given it to us. Just like with the 'I dug up my dead brother' scene. (Tugged my heart, too BTW.) Just a little bit.
When Seth tells Martha that she has to watch the Norwegian kid b/c "Alma is under Doc's care and Trixie is assisting", ( Victorian for Alma is getting the hook?), Seth is obviously upset. Martha is so cool and comforting then. "We'll both pray for Mrs. Ellsworth then". I could imagine inside Martha is thinking 'Whew! Glad I don't have to deal with my husband's illegitimate kid', but she doesn't show it. I like Martha a lot. I wish we would have got to know her mind and spirit a little more. I thought Anna Gunn was great.
I was so peeved with Tim criticizing Anna's height that I would have loved a scene where she pushes his skinny ass up against a wall and plants one on him after Seth complains about her 'weak tea". "'I like mine especially strong" was full of sexual innuendo, I thought, and the episode synopsis in cyber space said as much. That is the extent of my fan fiction. LOL.
So much left wanting in Deadwood....
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