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Post by wkw99 on Mar 15, 2015 14:48:19 GMT -6
I like the Wynn Duffy, C.I. Theory, but Ava could have known that Kathryn and Avery were cozy from the day she spent with Kathryn snorting coke and robbing jewelry stores. Didn't they talk about Avery?
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Post by ripetebook on Mar 15, 2015 16:14:00 GMT -6
The 6.13 episode...has been named..PROMISE. Gives me hope for Raylan.
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Post by wkw99 on Mar 15, 2015 16:27:37 GMT -6
Gives me hope for Ava.
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Post by justifiedceo on Mar 15, 2015 16:38:24 GMT -6
E8: Art knows KH is making time with Grady. Rachel told him between E6 and E8.
I still don't know if Markham or KH is the one who ratted on Grady. Nor do I know if KH's narrative is correct that who ratted out Grady is the same who had Vasquez's ex-boss murdered. It's entirely possible that Markham ratted out Grady and KH had Vasquez's boss killed. Or any other permutations including Grady's murder in jail.
But there is no doubt, and if anyone can provide an alternative after watching the end of E6, I am willing to hear it. But WD is a CI.
JC
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Post by ripetebook on Mar 15, 2015 19:44:54 GMT -6
My feeling honestly based on five seasons and this sixth...nothing is ever certain and they love giving us teasers....where ever they take me...I am willingly on board. I think Wynn Duffy is one huge tease. Can't wait to see where they take us. My fascination besides Raylan and Boyd is zachiriah. He is one loaded gun....
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Post by justifiedceo on Mar 15, 2015 20:42:22 GMT -6
With all due respect.
Here is the exact transcript of Rachel's and Art's conversation in E6 at the 22:34 mark.
Rachel: "Turns out he was making time with Katherine".
Rachel: "Still is as a matter of fact, or is again".
Rachel: "That is, if I can trust our CI".
Art: "What do you mean if you can trust your CI?".
Rachel blinks and avoids his eyes
Art: "Is Ava doing something that makes you not trust her?"
To the prosecution, Ava did spend time with Katherine and knows about Markham.
To my defense, Ava's CI contact is RG. And she never told RG about Katherine and Markham. She had no reason to do so. Since RG is only interested in Boyd.
SO .... AS YOU SAY RIPE, IN JUSTIFIED "NOTHING IS EVER CERTAIN AND THEY LOVE GIVING US TEASERS".
But I came up with my WD CI case before watching this scene and came up with evidence independent of it to support it.
And then heard and saw this scene hiding in plain sight.
JC
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Post by wkw99 on Mar 15, 2015 20:52:06 GMT -6
To play devil's advocate, I think at that point Rachel thought Ava and Raylan might be sleeping together again. I took her guilty look for that. Yes, Ava's contact is Raylan, but Raylan is reporting to Rachel, and Raylan might have asked about Markham and/or Kathryn, and passed the info on.
But like I said... I like the idea of Duffy as a CI. If that isn't where this is going...it should be. LOL
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Post by mare27 on Mar 15, 2015 20:55:45 GMT -6
E8: Art knows KH is making time with Grady. Rachel told him between E6 and E8. I still don't know if Markham or KH is the one who ratted on Grady. Nor do I know if KH's narrative is correct that who ratted out Grady is the same who had Vasquez's ex-boss murdered. It's entirely possible that Markham ratted out Grady and KH had Vasquez's boss killed. Or any other permutations including Grady's murder in jail. But there is no doubt, and if anyone can provide an alternative after watching the end of E6, I am willing to hear it. But WD is a CI. JC first line , should be making time with Avery Markham, right? Grady is long gone.
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Post by mondayschild on Mar 15, 2015 21:54:57 GMT -6
I like the idea that Wynn Duffy might be a CI. Nifty little twist. But as usual, I have to cop to not having a clue about what will happen. I admire all of you who have things figured out ahead of time, but I'm not that swift. All of a sudden, after a very depressing winter, my life is jam packed with way too much. To borrow a line from one of my favorite cartoons, The Far Side, "May I be excused. My brain is full."
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Post by ripetebook on Mar 15, 2015 23:34:50 GMT -6
Always thought the bigger connection for Katherine is the person that ratted out Grady was also the person that had him killed. That prosecutor issue is more sideline and Katherine would be my prime on that while Avery ratted and then killed Grady. Except Art made a good point. Why kill Grady and then leave Kentucky and the love of your life? Leaves enough questions...like is Duffy in deeper with all this? ?
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Post by justifiedceo on Mar 16, 2015 0:23:40 GMT -6
To play devil's advocate, I think at that point Rachel thought Ava and Raylan might be sleeping together again. I took her guilty look for that. Yes, Ava's contact is Raylan, but Raylan is reporting to Rachel, and Raylan might have asked about Markham and/or Kathryn, and passed the info on. But like I said... I like the idea of Duffy as a CI. If that isn't where this is going...it should be. LOL Well, I just figured how to respond to everyone directly. With only five more episodes ... I guess better than never for someone who doesn't understand technology WKW, Yes. I thought that was another option, since some of what has/is happening or being said not within the audiences purview. But thanks my old link back to this board. Yes ... this should be where it is going. Otherwise - remembering Jere Burns is now part of the full time cast - everyone else has a special arc and stakes. WD as a third wheel or comic relief? Underutilized. He must have some kind of special part to play other than carrying Katherine Hale's tennis racket. JC
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Post by justifiedceo on Mar 16, 2015 0:26:57 GMT -6
E8: Art knows KH is making time with Grady. Rachel told him between E6 and E8. I still don't know if Markham or KH is the one who ratted on Grady. Nor do I know if KH's narrative is correct that who ratted out Grady is the same who had Vasquez's ex-boss murdered. It's entirely possible that Markham ratted out Grady and KH had Vasquez's boss killed. Or any other permutations including Grady's murder in jail. But there is no doubt, and if anyone can provide an alternative after watching the end of E6, I am willing to hear it. But WD is a CI. JC first line , should be making time with Avery Markham, right? Grady is long gone. Mare, My bad. First line should have said "is" making time with Avery. JC
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Post by justifiedceo on Mar 16, 2015 0:33:35 GMT -6
Always thought the bigger connection for Katherine is the person that ratted out Grady was also the person that had him killed. That prosecutor issue is more sideline and Katherine would be my prime on that while Avery ratted and then killed Grady. Except Art made a good point. Why kill Grady and then leave Kentucky and the love of your life? Leaves enough questions...like is Duffy in deeper with all this? ? Ripe, You are right. Of all the three events ... AM is likely the rat and the one that would have had to kill Grady. And KH's beef was with the prosecutor. As to why kill Grady and then leave KY and the love of your life? 1. He had to leave KY because he had to fear that KH would rat him out. 2. I don't think for one second KH is AM's love of his life. 3. His primary motivation is to buy up Harlan land before weed is legalized. 4. KH? Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. JC
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Post by siss13 on Mar 16, 2015 6:54:41 GMT -6
I don't know if WD is a CI or he just has his own agenda, like everyone else. Whatever the case, I think there is a possibility that WD could play a vital role in the Grady mystery and the RICO case against Boyd. He would have to make some kind of deal to save himself, or at least get a reduced prison sentence. If he lives long enough.
I'm not ruling out Mikey as a CI. He might just be playing the dumb security guy role to stay under the radar. He also knows everything about Boyd and WD's criminal dealings. And he privy to all the information that is shared between WD and his crime posse.
It's hard for me to speculate at this point in the season, because I still think the writers are going to surprise us. What seems clearly obvious might just be a red-herring placed in the plot to mislead those viewers who think they might have it all figured out.
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Post by justifiedceo on Mar 16, 2015 11:59:48 GMT -6
Siss, One thing, I think we can all agree on, is that Wynn Duffy isn't just on the cast of Justified for comic relief. He has to have some finality himself. And whether has had, has or will have a different agenda is 100% certain. Otherwise a waste of talent. Mikey. I could argue that a Mikey reveal isn't going to have the same bang for the buck. Or that he blindly serves whatever Wynn's needs are. But I CAN say that in the scene with Albert Fecus. Wynn had him use the cattle prod. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, Wynn said he could live and Mikey was bummed and questioned his boss. Any secret CI story - has been debated at large w/o consensus - but Mikey, established in that scene, if there is another secret CI. It isn't Mikey. JC
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Post by ripetebook on Mar 16, 2015 12:37:04 GMT -6
There is so much that still needs addressing and sadly some things could be tabled...like Francis. Duffy may not get fully addressed to our satisfaction. How long have many demanded more Tim...Rachel and even Art. And honestly as we approach the true finale...Raylan and Boyd will be center stage.
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Post by justifiedceo on Mar 16, 2015 18:34:56 GMT -6
Call Me Get A Life, 1. But I do have one. It just happens to be running a freaking corporation. Which leaves too much domestic and international flight time. I have now sunk to interpretation of Justified, like the bible, I was supposed to have read with 12 years of Catholic education. Citing chapter and verse. 2. Oops. Train of thought ... Boyd did say that if his church allowed Saints, Rylan would be the first Saint. 3. Oops. Train of thought ... Saint Rylan said in Genesis/Pilot Chapter 12, verse 4 .... I believe ... "I just use the bible to justify what I want to do". 4. There are four episodes left. Markham's men have scattered. We are down to ... never mind ... too many characters are still left for 4 episodes before the Boyd/Rylan standoff. See you on the other side of the next chapter of the Book of Revelations which is nigh upon us JC
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Post by wkw99 on Mar 16, 2015 19:11:44 GMT -6
5 chapters, JCEO (9, 10, 11, 12, and 13)... Therefore do not hasten the end.
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Post by justifiedceo on Mar 17, 2015 8:50:53 GMT -6
WKW, I meant four chapter before the Boyd/Rylan standoff/fifth chapter. JC
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Post by ripetebook on Mar 17, 2015 11:09:26 GMT -6
Been thinking and this is the place to get answers. Initially I thought Raylan was moving the stones to sell the house. I mean who buys a place with its own cemetery? But the end Raylan leaves his parents more out of respect and removes his own,...did I miss the point? Misread the scene?
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Post by mondayschild on Mar 17, 2015 12:40:14 GMT -6
I don't see Raylan EVER wanting to be buried there. There's no point in keeping the headstone. But since his parents are already buried there, he seemed to have changed his mind about disturbing them. He's cleaning house, getting rid of all the bad memories as best he can. I don't think he will ever live in that house again, even temporarily. He seems to have moved back into the motel room. He'll get as far away as he can, job permitting. And he certainly has no use for that headstone. When he and his family get settled somewhere else, he and Winona can buy matching headstones!
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