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Post by lovejustified on Feb 4, 2012 10:37:45 GMT -6
Sometimes I am just astounded that TO doesn't have a bigger movie career, he is sooo talented. At first I thought it was because he consciously avoided certain roles, and maybe at the time he did. But he sounds a little more open to going 'big' these days. So I was just wondering, to put it out there in the universe, what movie do you all think he should have/could have or, in the future, should do? ?? Personally, i would love to see a remake of The Bodyguard with TO in the Kostner role. Remember, I'm thinking 'big', not necessarily Shakespeare.
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Post by motorcitymade on Feb 4, 2012 19:45:35 GMT -6
I was really hoping for the lone ranger w/ Johnny Depp.....but then the old "Typecast" word pops up.
I have another idea...but I'll have to get back later...I'm sick today and the chicken soup has arrived....
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Post by wkw99 on Feb 4, 2012 19:51:59 GMT -6
I'd rather see him in good small, Sundance caliber movies than blockbusters. Give him a chance to show hisbacting chops and play some different characters. There are a couple of books I've read in the last year or twomthat I think he'd be great in movies of...One is a thriller about a pandemic called The Things That Keep Us Here. ( it's by Carla Buckley, and a good read...highly recommended, but terrifying in its possibilities)
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Post by motorcitymade on Feb 4, 2012 21:51:07 GMT -6
O.K.....Has anyone seen Shame??? I'm just sayin'......
Something like that....
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Post by mondayschild on Feb 4, 2012 21:53:39 GMT -6
Tim has played a number of great characters in movies that were special little "sleepers." There are very few that I didn't enjoy. Here a a couple of remakes that I could see him in. The role of Ned Racine in "Body Heat.," played originally by William Hurt. That is a very hot, intense role, and I think Timothy could do it justice. Also, and this one goes back quite a way, the role of Brick in Tennessee Williams' "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof." Paul Newman, my all-time favorite, was scorching in this role. Timothy couldn't have played these roles when he was younger, but now, he could set the screen on fire in remakes of these films.
The men in these roles played opposite two women who were sexy/beautiful in their youth; Kathleen Turner as Maddie in "Body Heat,' and Liz Taylor as Maggie in "Cat." Who could we match up with Tim in these movies?
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Post by wkw99 on Feb 5, 2012 5:08:48 GMT -6
I unfortunately, I think it's a little soon for a remake of that one, MCM. LOL.
In A Body Heat remake, I think Elizabeth Banks would be terrific. I'd like to see her be 'bad'. I'm not a Tennessee Williams fan...so I've got no suggestions for the second one.
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Post by bookperson39 on Feb 9, 2012 15:20:05 GMT -6
I would just like to see him in a well-made, well-received mainstream film that would show the world what we know already. Is that too much to ask? ??
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Post by kentuckygal on Jul 17, 2012 0:54:23 GMT -6
mondayschild, would Cate Blanchette be too oddball a choice as Maddie or even Maggie? Or how about Carla Gugino as Maggie? I think both those actresses would tear into those roles.
wkw99's choice of Elizabeth Banks is another good suggestion. She has really surprised me with her versatility.
Anyway, Brick and Ned Racine do seem like intriguing roles for TO.
While we're plundering Paul Newman's oeuvre, how about Hud? But they have to keep the haunting guitar theme song.
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Post by wkw99 on Jul 17, 2012 4:24:16 GMT -6
I'd love to see him in anything with Cate Blanchette, but I'm not a Carla Gugino fan. She has underwhelmed me in everything I've seen her in. Or maybe that's overwhelmed because I think she over acts. I tired again with 'Political Animals' on Sunday night...same result. Maybe it's the characters she plays, who knows? I just can't get past her mouth and her voice.
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Post by christina on Jul 17, 2012 7:22:59 GMT -6
Sometimes I am just astounded that TO doesn't have a bigger movie career, he is sooo talented. At first I thought it was because he consciously avoided certain roles, and maybe at the time he did. But he sounds a little more open to going 'big' these days. I doubt that TO ever avoided certain roles. He just didn't get them or wasn't considered for them. As you probably all heard before, he was considered for Iron Man, but the studio picked Robert Downey Jr over TO. He was also considered for a part in the last Start Trek movie. But for some reason that fell through. There is fierce competition in this business and my impression is that Hollywood tends to pick the same leading actors again and again, as the bosses think that this will to a certain extent guarantee the success of a movie which in my not so humble opinion is total BS. Just think TO had played Iron Man -- it would have been sexy Iron Man, instead we got psycho Iron Man. lol I don't know but to me Robert Downey Jr. always has this slightly manic-depressive air about him. I really like him, though. He did a great job.
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Post by christina on Jul 17, 2012 8:50:31 GMT -6
Another piece of information I found that makes me think TO will do pretty much any movie (well, with the exception of a certain adult variety....) that will pay the rent so to speak. I actually love the way how honest he is about the show business. No way of knowing if he really said that but it definitely sounds like something he would say: www.atpictures.com/news.php?id=4020
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Post by kentuckygal on Jul 17, 2012 8:54:35 GMT -6
Didn't TO say in an interview once that any time he receives a potential script to read he knows five or six other actors have already passed on it?
Plus there are "box office kings" who receive every script, no matter how wrong they are for the part, just because of the built in financial insecurity of the film business. But even big names whose initials are Tom Cruise can't save every project.
TO as Tony Stark/Iron Man? That would have been one cool, sleek, sexy billionaire! TO can definitely bring the sexy, the funny (in all its forms), the redemption arc and action man. But I have to say that Robert Downey Jr did a terrific job and can probably take a lot of the credit for the first film's success. (It's the only one I've seen.) His performance and the public persona he brings with him bumped a CGI-laden comic book action flick from popcorn entertainment to something a little edgier and slightly more memorable.
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Post by kentuckygal on Jul 17, 2012 9:12:43 GMT -6
Christina, he has admitted in several interviews that he signed on to both Live Free or Die Hard and Hitman to pay for their newly acquired house. While he did work his ass off on both movies and performed the requisite publicity junkets, learning a lot from Bruce Willis about how to handle himself with the press and fans, he has also said it was not an experience he would care to replicate.
After working on projects like Justified and Damages, where his ideas and input are respected and given careful consideration and the material is top notch, going back to being a cog in a no-brainer big budget blockbuster wheel must seem less tempting..... Unless he needs the money. Then, why not? He still brings his considerable work ethic to every project, despite the way he loves to pretend he's just a bum coasting along.
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Post by christina on Jul 17, 2012 10:02:41 GMT -6
Didn't TO say in an interview once that any time he receives a potential script to read he knows five or six other actors have already passed on it? I will try and find that. I don't remember it, though. But he seems very aware of his position in the business which to me shows he is a real pro. Yeah, and I think it is totally moronic because I am convinced it doesn't work that way. It just goes to show that Hollywood is first and foremost a business with investors that look for a safe margin of profit. Therefore, the main concern is to lower the risks of losing money. And with the budgets increasing a the time, the risks gets bigger. That's why the big budget movies are often generic and boring. Oh you put that so well (I learn so much from reading this board. I love coming here.) I love Iron Man and also Iron Man 2. The main reason being Robert Downey Jr. However, I think TO's Iron Man could have been just as good, if though quite different. TO could have never beaten Robert Downey Jr in the arrogant a--hole department. Robert Downey Jr just has that down pat. On the other hand, RDJ is nowhere as sensitive, charming and seductive as TO. Those qualities would have made the character more complex and ultimately more likeable (or the viewer would feel more conflicted about the character -- often drawn to him and appalled at times -- which I personally think is always a great thing). It would have been a wonderful role for TO and as much as I adore Robert Downey Jr I'm bummed we were deprived of sexy Iron Man. lol
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Post by alphamare on Jul 17, 2012 10:51:59 GMT -6
I want TO to be in a blockbuster Popcorn movie just so everyone can see and appreciate him.
I really dig his choice in characters. He chooses characters that are layered and complex. Characters that are duplicitous and deep. I trust that whatever role he chooses will be fantastic, even if the movie itself sucks. I just wish people would cast him in some big time movie where he can show a range of emotion as a likable character with good dialog and a strong presence so people will FINALLY take notice of how fantastic he really is. I think it would take something over-the-top, in-your-face emotion to make some of these movie goers to sit up and see him. If they'd cast him as a leading man superhero, I think it could work.
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Post by alphamare on Jul 17, 2012 10:59:05 GMT -6
PS- I really wanted him to be the Lone Ranger, too. He's so perfect for the masked man. I watched that series in reruns as a child. I have the distinct feeling that the movie is going to be "the Johnny Depp show" though, and it will make a mockery of the original material.
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Post by mondayschild on Jul 17, 2012 14:03:21 GMT -6
First, let me reply to a couple of posts.
kentuckygal, YES! He could REALLY play Hud. As for actresses for him to star with, I just can't make up my mind.
And wkw, I'm not all that impressed with some of Carla Guigino's work, while I do like her in some roles. Once upon another thread, I mentioned that I had first seen her in a British mini-series years ago when she was very young. I thought it was a Henry James story, but it was not. It was "The Buccaneers," based on a story by Edith Wharton. I have since bought it from Amazon and enjoyed watching it again. She was was more full-figured then. I thought her boobs would surely escape her dress a number of times. But I thought she was luminous.
Now as to roles for Timothy. It was always my impression, too, that he took certain roles in the past in order to pay the bills. Every actor has done it. But I don't see him taking those kinds of roles anymore. It would be a detriment to his career.
I'm not sure he wants to be all over the place like Tom Cruise. Being all over the tabloids would interfere with the family life that is so important to him. The roles he has been taking are wonderful characters that require him to be more than just a pretty face. He's building a good portfolio now and I hope he continues to make good decisions.
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Post by lg66 on Jul 17, 2012 18:59:59 GMT -6
From MondaysChild Now as to roles for Timothy. It was always my impression, too, that he took certain roles in the past in order to pay the bills. Every actor has done it. But I don't see him taking those kinds of roles anymore. It would be a detriment to his career.
I'm not sure he wants to be all over the place like Tom Cruise. Being all over the tabloids would interfere with the family life that is so important to him. The roles he has been taking are wonderful characters that require him to be more than just a pretty face. He's building a good portfolio now and I hope he continues to make good decisions. --------------------------------------- Well said Monday....I for one am NOT a Tom Cruise fan....But that is my own opinion....Timothy loves his private life and he is conscious of protecting it....And when someone goofs, Ie Walton in that interview about having dinner with his family, Timothy does a nice job of politely shutting it down...I think he is a smart man...Living outside of the Hollywood bubble, raising his kids normally like any other family, and keeping them out of the limelight is smart not only for them, but for the foundation of a solid marriage...We all know too well that Hollywood marriages come and go...To see him and his wife make 21 years is exquisitely romantic....We have enough Hollywood trouble makers and brats to see...TO is so down to Earth and I am sure his kids share that persona...I don't think he really wants to exchange what he has for the opposite of that...Although he did say being recognized for a job well done is always nice...But he knows the cons of the that recognition, and seems mindful to keep it at bay...Which I gotta say, I find very attractive about him and his ways of thinking...Yes it would be great to have everyone know him on sight or just by voice...But I don't wish the man any ill gotten gains from it..Like creepy people going through his garbage and stalking him or his family...Putting notes to him in his kids bookbag like that creep who wanted to talk to JK Rowlins....
CREEPY...Family should never be approached, it's not acceptable for any reason...
On a side note, I just heard that insiders said Katie Holmes thought her own daughter was becoming a brat cause of Tom and spoiling her....No one knows the real truth, but I for one see Katie as a very good hearted woman with a solid upbringing...And I don't blame her one bit for catching that now before it got worse for little Suri...Kids need structure and discipline and should be allowed to lead a normal life regardless of what their parents do for a living...We have enough Lohans and Kardashians out there thank you...Not to mention all the young folks growing up thinking all the rest of us owe them fame and fortune....
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Post by lg66 on Jul 17, 2012 19:16:07 GMT -6
And getting back to topic:
I rather liked Katie Holmes with TO..Their chemistry was very good...As was Kiele Sanchez's and Mila Jovovich's......I also think that Stana Katic from Castle would make a good co-star and Missy Peregrym of Rookie Blue....Just my thoughts, cause I know these actresses are very capable of bringing the same rawness mixed with turmoil that Timothy does....
I also think he'd be great with Sam Elliot and Tom Selleck in just about anything cause he has their laid back no nonsense demeanor...Cowboy traits....THAT Jeremy Reiner, LOL, would also make a nice co-star in something more action packed with Timothy...I'd love to see them pit against one another like Stallone and Banderas in Assassins....I think their chemistry was fantastic in that....And we all know now that Timothy is a pretty convincing Hitman himself...So that would be cool to see....JMHO
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Post by exdusm on Jul 17, 2012 20:11:56 GMT -6
I hope that the Justified writers get the vision that, IMO, the best actress who would have cosmic chemistry with Tim/Raylan in a limited-run guest role is my girl, Julianne Moore. I am biased, but I just love her. I have seen almost everything she has done. No matter what the movie/role, she is extraordinary. She buries herself within every character, and has that gift of subtlety (expression, gesture, movement/stillness) that TO possesses. She is known to be a dream to work with. And in my heart I know she and Tim would generate fireworks in their scenes. The great thing about Julianne is that she is game, and has the confidence as well, to do guest turns on network TV. At the least, she and TO must do a movie together. Raylan ain't afraid of no red-headed woman. I can also hope Rose Byrne works with TO in a film or has a guest appearance on Justified. Just ask, Rose. I know you want to. I love her, too. As much as I would like to see the relationship continue in a realistic way, one way or the other, I am not looking to see too much of Winona/Natalie Zea. I like her, and had hopes for her character development, but the writers did the actress no favors the way her character was written, actually not written. She did well with what she was given, but she was not given the chance to explore the depths and range of her acting chops. If Tim is incandescent, any actor or actress sharing the scene/screen with him had better burn as bright or Tim will suck the all the air and light away, 'cuz the camera love him long-time. I don't ever want to see Carla Gugino's season 3 character reappear on Justified. After all the strides that have been made over the years portraying women in law enforcement, to see that creature in a straight skirt and high heels pretending to be all bad-ass..well, as a former DUSM, it hurt my feelings. The current Director, in real life, was the real deal. On top of that, CG has/had neither charisma or chemistry with TO. Just cuz I'm too lazy to post in the right thread, check out the Pajiba.com Emmy wish-list posted today. They love Justified, Tim and the guest actors. Mind-boggling is the omission of Walton Goggins?!?!?!
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Post by mondayschild on Jul 17, 2012 22:14:52 GMT -6
exdusm, I love the term "cosmic chemistry." Timothy exudes so much energy, even when he is still. He needs a co-star who also can hold her own, so to speak.
lg66, I love Stana Katic. (The whole cast of "Castle" is wonderful, but it's the fact that she is sometimes vulnerable, but always strong underneath that makes her great.) I've watched the season finale many times. This is a driven woman who finally realizes that love in the present is what is important. Loved it. Very good actress.
I truly agree with the idea that Timothy is a character actor at heart. This is the best type to be because he won't end up being pigeon-holed. Bullock and Raylan are somewhat alike, but the rest of Timothy's roles are very diverse. I mean, he's even played gay guys. A lot of actors wouldn't take that on.
As far as him not being a Tom Cruise type----he never could be. Tom has had some VERY good roles; he was excellent in "Born on the Fourth of July," probably his best role. But his real life persona is so whacked. Timothy would never fall into that kind of craziness. I think Katie looked at her life and decided that it was not what she wanted for her child. Tom is just too psycho. And I think Timothy made a decision long ago not to be that kind of a celebrity.
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Post by pisces on Oct 29, 2012 17:20:44 GMT -6
Love all the thoughts in this thread, and I have to agree with Alphamare - I, too, would love to see TO in something big so that people will finally become aware of this wonderful secret we've all known about for some time. That's not to say that I'd want him to make crap films just because they're from a major studio (I don't think anyone wants that, including TO himself), but there are always a smattering of really great, major films, and I'd like to see him in one.
I've always envisioned him in a Coen brothers epic. Joel and Ethan seem to appreciate actors who aren't 'too' well-known, and who possess a certain degree of unique appeal with rough edges. In that respect, TO completely qualifies. I can mentally replace Josh Brolin with TO in No Country with little trouble - I think he'd be fabulous in something like that, and would finally gain a bit more notice... which he sorely deserves.
Have to say that I adore his honesty, in admitting that he takes certain roles to pay for a mortgage, or that he only gets scripts after they've been nixed by A-listers. I find it absolutely endearing. Another actor I follow (who gives horribly dull interviews and will remain nameless), is always going on and on about his own integrity in choosing roles, and that he believes so very deeply in each character he's played. Which would be fine except that quite a few of the films have been forgettable fodder - so he comes off (unintentionally, I'm sure) as a knob who takes himself far too seriously. With TO, I'm smiling from ear to ear when he talks about his own standing in the business, because it's so refreshing to me. There's no reason an actor can't believe in himself and his work AND still choose roles that pay the bills. Tim's a realist, and his self-deprecating humor about his resume is one of my favorite things about him.
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Post by Dolphin on Oct 31, 2012 1:22:42 GMT -6
Great thread. I also would love to see him in a high quality movie or indie film.
As far as what's already been made ... a modern remake? I can see TO in lots of roles:
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (Jack Nicholson's role) 12 Angry Men (Henry Fonda's role) The Shawshank Redemption (Tim Robbins' role) The Bridges of Madison County (Clint Eastwood's role) Brokeback Mountain (Heath Ledger's role) The Majestic (Jim Carrey's role) Dog Day Afternoon (Al Pacino's role) Escape from Alcatraz (Clint Eastwood's role) Basic Instinct (Michael Douglas' role) Dances with Wolves (Kevin Costner's role) A Beautiful Mind (Russell Crowe's role) The Sixth Sense (Bruce Willis' role) Cool Hand Luke (Paul Newman's role) The Sting (Paul Newman's role) Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (Robert Redford's role) Mystic River (Tim Robbins' role) Kramer vs. Kramer (Dustin Hoffman's role) Bonnie and Clyde (Warren Beatty's role) MASH (Donald Sutherland's role) Paper Moon (Ryan O'Neal's role) Coming Home (Jon Voight's role) Fatal Attraction (Michael Douglas' role) Moonstruck (Nicholas Cage's role) The Prince of Tides (Nick Nolte's role) The Fugitive (Harrison Ford's role) Charly (Cliff Robertson's role)
Leading ladies (depending on role)? Cate Blanchett (remake of 'Bonnie and Clyde') Amy Adams (remake of 'One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest' Candy) Nicole Kidman (remake of 'One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest' Nurse Ratched) Charlize Theron (Remake of 'Basic Instinct') Jennifer Connelly (Remake of 'Dances with Wolves') Naomi Watts (remake of 'A Beautiful Mind') Minnie Driver (remake of 'Moonstruck') Scarlett Johansson (remake of 'Kramer vs. Kramer') Maria Bello (remake of 'Fatal Attraction') Diane Lane (remake of 'The Prince of Tides') Michelle Williams (remake of 'Brokeback Mountain') why mess with perfection? Rachel McAdams (remake of 'The Majestic') Marion Cotillard (remake of 'The Bridges of Madison County') Rachel Weisz (remake of 'Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid')
Others?? Jessica Chastain Lucy Liu Selma Hayek
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Post by wkw99 on Oct 31, 2012 3:42:58 GMT -6
A lot of those don't need a remake; but God in Heaven I wish someone WOULD remake Prince of Tides because the original was slaughtered by Barbra Streisand's ego. Don't get me wrong, she's a talented woman, but the way she upped her role at the sacrifice of a deeper story is a crime. Another case of 'Great book, lousy movie'.
I am thinking of some recent books I've read that would offer good roles...A Reliable Wife, Defending Jacob, On Folly Beach...I could see him playing the lead in any number of Harlan Cobin's novels, too. He'd be an interesting Micky Bolitar....we know he can play basketball.
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Post by Dolphin on Oct 31, 2012 4:07:01 GMT -6
A lot of those don't need a remake; but God in Heaven I wish someone WOULD remake Prince of Tides because the original was slaughtered by Barbra Streisand's ego. Don't get me wrong, she's a talented woman, but the way she upped her role at the sacrifice of a deeper story is a crime. Another case of 'Great book, lousy movie'. This is fantasy casting. I didn't list these as films needing to be remade. I listed them because I can see TO in the roles ... he could pull them off. (For some, they would have to be a modern remake ... in my fantasy casting.) I totally agree with you about Barbara Streisand in The Prince of Tides. She directed (and was a producer of) the movie. It would have been a much better film and more professional had she cast someone else as Susan Lowenstein. (Ben Affleck is receiving major kudos for directing Argo, and some criticism for casting himself as the lead. Although I think it's a little different from Streisand. I honestly think she loved to be cast against handsome, at the time, leading men. And yes, that is ego.)
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