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Post by alphamare on Aug 23, 2013 21:53:58 GMT -6
Summer's good! Horses are healthy. The lame one is starting to come around!! The 19 month old niece has successfully trotted on my Arab cross. Cruise ins are in full swing. Missing my TV shows, though, and have been re-watching some Deadwood. I may start re-watching episodes of Justified so I can join the conversation. So many talented nuance analyzers on here! Pic spam time! Behold the beauty:
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Post by mondayschild on Sept 8, 2013 21:15:52 GMT -6
"I watched an old, old episode of Law and Order" tonight that featured a young Jacob Pitts. He played a teenager who had committed a murder. Our beloved Tim Gutterson at that time had shaggy hair that fell over his eyes and a prominent mole on his right cheek which has since been removed. Still, he was very recognizable. Our equally beloved Detective Lennie Brisco and his partner Ed Green were on the scene. The "Law and Order" franchise is well know as the place where young actors can get recognition. And some very fine established actors have had wonderful roles on the show, too. It's my "go to" place for really good performances.
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Post by bookperson39 on Sept 11, 2013 17:23:13 GMT -6
Maybe we should turn this into a "what I did on my summer vacation" thread! LOL alphamare, I love your niece! What a cutie!
After my stint babysitting in Boston while our daughter was in The Wizard of Oz, I just returned from a long week in Louisville, where our daughter was appearing at the Actor's Theatre of Louisville in a British farce, Noises Off.
The performance was great. She loved the theater and the cast and crew. She had worked with the director in San Franciso.
I hadn't been in Louisville in about 60 years, so it was quite a revelation! We stayed at a giant convention/event hotel that had a bar with fish swimming in it and two large cages of finches, not to mention a "moving staircase" that my granddaughter LOVED to go up and down on. (I sound like that song in Oklahoma..."Everything's Up to Date in Kansas City"! We took her to the Kentucky Derby Museum which has a couple of resident horses and, wonder of wonders, a video game where you sit on a horse and try to win races by pressing various buttons. Little Audrey was crazy about this and one of us had to alternate staying with her and playing it. Needles to say, she's 3, so she always "won" at the end of the race, no matter where her horse actually finished. She picked the one with the pink silks. I'm writing this at work. I'll try to send a couple of pictures of the Wonder Child later.
Well, enough of my adventures in the big city.... We spotted Winona and her sister out shopping but didn't want to disturb her in her condition.
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Post by mondayschild on Sept 11, 2013 20:11:52 GMT -6
You are so lucky to get to travel and spend time with your granddaughter. Closest I will ever come is next week at the beach with my great niece who is also three. Wonderful age!
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Post by Dolphin on Sept 11, 2013 20:24:38 GMT -6
You are so lucky to get to travel and spend time with your granddaughter. Closest I will ever come is next week at the beach with my great niece who is also three. Wonderful age! Speaking of grandchildren and the beach, I just received pics of Grand Dolphin's first trip to the beach. She's 5 mos. old. Alpha, don't know how I missed your pics. BEAUTIFUL!!
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Post by bookperson39 on Sept 15, 2013 11:14:31 GMT -6
Oh, my word! What an adorable Little Dolphin!
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Post by Dolphin on Sept 15, 2013 13:04:23 GMT -6
Oh, my word! What an adorable Little Dolphin! Thanks! She's such a joy.
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Post by kmmo on Sept 15, 2013 15:59:09 GMT -6
Dolphin- love the pictures of your beautiful granddaughter!
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Post by alphamare on Sept 17, 2013 17:22:38 GMT -6
You are so lucky to get to travel and spend time with your granddaughter. Closest I will ever come is next week at the beach with my great niece who is also three. Wonderful age! Speaking of grandchildren and the beach, I just received pics of Grand Dolphin's first trip to the beach. She's 5 mos. old. Alpha, don't know how I missed your pics. BEAUTIFUL!! Dolphin, she's ADORABLE! Such beautiful eyes. Thanks for the compliment! I'm pretty partial to Kaylee. I think we're gonna keep her. One more picture, cause I can't help myself. We went bareback riding.
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Post by motorcitymade on Sept 17, 2013 18:12:27 GMT -6
Great pics of girls young and older. I like the mud on the butt, Alpha. We were missing you and your library of TO a few days ago when I bumped up the "suspicion confirmed" thread.....
Dolphin, I wanna see he with her Dolphin blankie!
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Post by Dolphin on Sept 17, 2013 19:43:05 GMT -6
Great pics of girls young and older. I like the mud on the butt, Alpha. We were missing you and your library of TO a few days ago when I bumped up the "suspicion confirmed" thread..... Dolphin, I wanna see he with her Dolphin blankie! Most definitely! I'll be working on it. Thank you, Alpha!! I like the mud on butt pics, too!!
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Post by mare27 on Nov 7, 2013 23:52:15 GMT -6
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Post by kmmo on Nov 9, 2013 15:44:22 GMT -6
mare27- that is hilarious. Raylan's Tight Jeans. I love it! There are several funny articles at that sight about Justified. Thanks for the link. edit* Okay, excuse my rambling here, but I have to say it- How great is it that we get this great show- Justified- with wonderful writing, interesting characters, excellent acting, a storyline that pulls you in and keeps you interested.... AND we get to watch Tim walk around in those tight jeans with that walk and just being gorgeous . How could we not love it?
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Post by mare27 on Nov 23, 2013 23:24:14 GMT -6
While trolling around, I found this interview with Tim from S4. I never read it before and I thought it was interesting, so I wanted to add it here...maybe you all have already seen this...in that case hope you enjoy re-reading Tim's thoughts. ******************************************************************************************************************************
The Season 4 "Justified" finale airs April 2 at 10 p.m. ET on FX, and tensions have reached their boiling point between Deputy U.S. Marshal Raylan Givens (Timothy Olyphant) and the Detroit mob, with Raylan's pregnant ex-wife Winona (Natalie Zea) caught in the crossfire.
The Huffington Post caught up with Olyphant back in January to discuss the trajectory of the season and his experience filming the critically acclaimed series, which was recently renewed for a fifth season. There are no spoilers below, but Olyphant, who is also an executive producer on "Justified," shared some fascinating insight into both the production of the show, Raylan's dynamic with his longtime rival, the inimitable Boyd Crowder (Walton Goggins), and what about the show keeps challenging him, even after four years.
You're an executive producer on "Justified," and I feel like it varies from show to show in terms of how much input actors who are also executive producers actually have. Can you talk a little about your experience in that capacity? They make me feel like I have a lot -- whether I do or not is probably up for debate. First of all, I’m very thankful for the opportunity to engage and collaborate with Graham [Yost] and the other writers the way that made me feel like I’m doing it. I’m there a lot. I’m at the writer’s room. A couple of months before we started shooting, Graham and I started talking immediately after the last season, as we always have done. I think I started coming into the writer’s room on and off sometimes back in July, August, and we engage in a constant dialogue. Before we start shooting, I’m in there a lot, and when we are shooting, I get in there whenever I can.
It seems like a very collaborative process and obviously, you have a very different perspective as an actor than the writers in terms of how a scene might work in practice and how you can add depth in unexpected ways. It’s where all the fun is. Honestly, it’s been the greatest thing about this job ... I love my job as an actor, and obviously that’s what I’m getting paid to do, but I feel that the real treat on this show is engaging and collaborating with Graham and the rest of them. It’s very rare that you can be in a career for as long as I have, and still feel like you’re constantly learning and coming at it from an almost childlike perspective. This show has afforded me that experience. I think that always as an actor, I don’t want to overstep or pretend that I’m doing anything more than I’m doing. I ask a lot of questions. I’m somewhere between a big pain in the ass and a cheerleader. I push and I ask questions, and I think, and then I cheer them on, and I say, “Come on, guys. We can do it. Let’s go.”
What were you hoping to achieve or explore this season that you haven't in previous seasons? Well, it starts with a very basic idea for me which is, "How do I still enjoy going to work?" ... If a movie is a marathon, television is a race to the death. If you’re successful, there’s a good chance they’re just going to squeeze it dry. Everybody wants to be liked, and everybody therefore just does what works.
I think the challenge is to say, “Fuck that. Let’s go where these characters want to go, and let’s trust that no matter what story we tell, it’s going to still feel like the world in which we created and started with.” I think that the challenge is to say, “What story do we want to tell? We already did that, let’s do something else.” The challenge with a character like Raylan is he’s so laconic, he’s sort of deflecting, or not allowing others to pin him down. How do you keep that character interesting? He’s not going to give you much. If he gives you too much, then you’ve betrayed the show, so you put him up a tree, and you throw rocks at him. I’m incredibly impressed that the show, for me anyway, continually makes that character of interest.
I read an interview that you and Walton did where you described Raylan and Boyd's relationship as the crux of the show. They're not really together for the first four episodes, but then their stories start to overlap. Can you talk more about their dynamic and how it's constantly shifting? Again, from a creative standpoint, you’ve got two things. I love working with the guy, but I don’t want to keep doing the same scene over and over just because it works. [The Season 4] story felt like it gave us an opportunity to stay in touch with both of them with their own interests and watch those worlds collide slowly over the course of the season. I think that the fact is that Walt’s just too good not to get everything you can out of him because he’s just electrifying, and he’s an unpredictable character. He’s an unpredictable actor, and he’s as good as it gets.
We’re never going to stop. We’re going to keep going as long as he’s around. I just think the relationship between Raylan and Boyd -- like to some degree the relationship Raylan and Art (Nick Searcy) and some of the others, but primarily Raylan and Boyd is -- I’m not sure if one of them is very interesting without the other.
Right, they are kind of the yin and yang of the show -- they define each other in a lot of ways. Well, it feels like something along the way, early on in their upbringing, just a nudge, made them two very, very different people and yet they couldn’t be more similar in many respects.
Raylan could have gone the same way. It seems like one of those things. It’s hard to define what it was that just made it work out [differently] for him.
Raylan always has the benefit of having very strong women in his orbit, as does the show in general ... First of all, all those actresses are just remarkable. They’re all so great. I could just watch a whole show about them. It starts with Elmore [Leonard, who wrote the stories on which "Justified" is based]. If you don’t have those women around in the story ... every story is better with a pretty girl in it. First and foremost, the Winona story and the relationship with that character, I think is an interesting one in that it’s a broken relationship, and now it’s more complicated with a kid on the way.
I remember when Graham and I first started the show, and he had introduced the ex-wife character. And also knowing that he was going to have this relationship with Ava [Joelle Carter] early on the show who, at the time, seemed like an absolute disaster -- I guess she still is. She had just shot and killed her husband and Raylan shows up after, God knows how many years, and she kisses him on the mouth and thinks all of her prayers have been answered, and you think, “What a disaster.” She’s just as concerned with the fact that she’s murdered her husband with how Lysol is the best cleaning product to deal with the bloodstain and her hair’s a mess. It was just a wonderful, bizarre character, and I remember this feeling of, “Well, if that’s who Raylan’s going to hook up with, then shouldn’t the ex-wife be the woman he wants to be with, but isn’t able to maintain a relationship with because of his own shortcomings?”
Right, because she's got her shit together and he really hasn't. Trust me, a relationship with a woman who’s got her shit together is not easy ... This season, it felt like we had an opportunity, given that Winona picked up and left Raylan, to introduce Raylan to a lot of women that were the type like Ava, the kinds he was attracted to but should know better than to get involved with.
I love that you've been pushing to bring Tim (Jacob Pitts) and Rachel (Erica Tazel) into more storylines this season. They’re just fantastic actors, and it’s about time we take full advantage of them. As far as I approach that from a story’s standpoint, I’m just looking for the answer to the same questions. "Who wants what? What makes it difficult?" Graham was talking about doing a scene that was going to be just Art and I, and then I introduced the idea of having Tim in the car. It’s a gut instinct ... by putting him in there, it provides an opportunity to make it more difficult, to enlighten, to quite frankly just see something we haven’t seen. It’s literally as pedestrian as, "I just haven’t seen that scene where you can watch that dynamic." I’ve seen a scene between Art and Raylan and that dynamic, but by putting the three of them together, it’s just as simple as watching the dynamics shift. It’s almost silly how much that adds to a scene, to say just by putting that third character in the car, the whole dynamic shifts. It also allows us to learn something about each of the characters that you wouldn’t have otherwise learned without them all being engaged that way.
"Justified" airs its Season 4 finale on April 2 at 10 p.m. ET on FX. ************************************************************************************************************************************ Always looking for more TO...
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Post by weegieburd on Nov 24, 2013 2:26:10 GMT -6
Great article mare, I think I have seen bits quoted from it but not the whole thing....great find, thank you.
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Post by wkw99 on Nov 24, 2013 5:44:26 GMT -6
I hadn't read this article. I really love that he thinks Winona has her 'shit together'. LOL. Many of us might disagree, but evidently, that's what Raylan thinks. The last part was particularly interesting. Where he says "Who wants what? What makes it difficult?"
In teaching kids about stories and how to look at them, I always use the breakdown "Somebody wanted ______, but ________, so_________." Try it on a fairy tale. Try it on a tv show. Try it on Shakespeare. Really all stories are set up that way. Some are just more complicated than others.
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Post by mare27 on Nov 24, 2013 18:55:06 GMT -6
Great article mare, I think I have seen bits quoted from it but not the whole thing....great find, thank you. Parts of it seemed familiar to me too...fun to read!
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Post by mare27 on Nov 24, 2013 19:05:46 GMT -6
I hadn't read this article. I really love that he thinks Winona has her 'shit together'. LOL. Many of us might disagree, but evidently, that's what Raylan thinks. The last part was particularly interesting. Where he says "Who wants what? What makes it difficult?" In teaching kids about stories and how to look at them, I always use the breakdown "Somebody wanted ______, but ________, so_________." Try it on a fairy tale. Try it on a tv show. Try it on Shakespeare. Really all stories are set up that way. Some are just more complicated than others. When TO says "Trust me, a relationship with a woman who has her shit together is not easy...." made me wonder if he was referring to the women in his life...LOL. And I like your suggestion to use those questions when looking at any story...
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Post by mare27 on Nov 24, 2013 20:35:23 GMT -6
Always looking for more TO... I knew that TO was on Broadway in the SantaLand Diaries, by David Sedaris...but never saw a photo til today. It's on Pinterest. maybe I can add it here.
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Post by mare27 on Nov 24, 2013 20:37:25 GMT -6
Now if we could just find a photo from his first off-Broadway show...wait, wasn't there a nude scene? OMG!
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Post by greygirl on Nov 24, 2013 21:17:53 GMT -6
Always looking for more TO... I knew that TO was on Broadway in the SantaLand Diaries, by David Sedaris...but never saw a photo til today. It's on Pinterest. maybe I can add it here. So cute!
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Post by mare27 on Nov 24, 2013 22:10:10 GMT -6
Remember when Tim and Walton "interviewed " each other in that video made prior to the start of filming of S4? It was just the two of them talking for about an hour, various subjects besides the show? I hope we see something like that again. Tim looked so great and I could listen to him for hours...I'm not sure of the source.
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Post by mare27 on Nov 24, 2013 22:15:09 GMT -6
Does anyone remember the cartoon , I think on this site, where the father advised the daughter that she would never find a man because her standards were based on the qualities of fictional men/characters in movies and tv, something like that, it was cute and funnier than I am stating here and I should have bookmarked it...Would love to find it.
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Post by motorcitymade on Nov 25, 2013 4:01:16 GMT -6
Does anyone remember the cartoon , I think on this site, where the father advised the daughter that she would never find a man because her standards were based on the qualities of fictional men/characters in movies and tv, something like that, it was cute and funnier than I am stating here and I should have bookmarked it...Would love to find it. I do remember it. I think it was in a link. I searched under cartoon and comic and I couldn't find it. Sorry. Was it a Cathy comic???
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Post by mare27 on Nov 25, 2013 16:55:14 GMT -6
Does anyone remember the cartoon , I think on this site, where the father advised the daughter that she would never find a man because her standards were based on the qualities of fictional men/characters in movies and tv, something like that, it was cute and funnier than I am stating here and I should have bookmarked it...Would love to find it. I do remember it. I think it was in a link. I searched under cartoon and comic and I couldn't find it. Sorry. Was it a Cathy comic??? I don't think it was a "Cathy" comic, more like the front of a funny greeting card, but I could be wrong.
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