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Post by Dolphin on May 22, 2013 13:48:51 GMT -6
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Post by Dolphin on May 22, 2013 13:51:36 GMT -6
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Post by wkw99 on May 22, 2013 15:24:50 GMT -6
Saw this! Yay!! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by kmmo on May 22, 2013 15:41:00 GMT -6
This is wonderful news! Thank you Dolphin! Matthew Rhys definitley deserves a nomination too.
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Post by mondayschild on May 22, 2013 18:27:03 GMT -6
This made my day, ladies. What a powerful group of actors!
Okay, I'm going to modify this post, several hours later. Of course, I want Tim to win. Goes without saying. The problem is that I'm not sure that he has the exposure that some of the other actors have. I have talked to friends who have no idea that there is a series called "Justified." They have never heard of it, let alone seen it.This is the fault of FX. They just don't seem to know how to promote the show and the web site sucks. ( I still can't get in without jumping through innumerable hoops.)
We all know that Raylan is just as complex and that Tim plays him just as beautifully as the other actors who are nominated do with their characters. But people have to see this and be engaged. So---- as much as I want Tim to be recognized and rewarded for his achievement, I don't see him winning. FX has let this show down is the worst possible way. It upsets me more than I can say.
I am happy that Critic's Choice has recognized Tim and Walton and Jim Beaver. And they have even nominated Patton Oswalt for another show. (Wish it was for "Justified," but what the hey. He is awesome.)
Expanded cable has brought us a wealth of drama and great performances. I will root for Tim and Walton and Jim with all that is in me. But I regret that FX has been so neglectful in promoting these great actors and that that will probably cost them the awards that they deserve.
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Post by Dolphin on May 23, 2013 1:09:26 GMT -6
I posted it over at the FX site as well. Go on over and offer congrats there as well ... IF you can get in.
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Post by wkw99 on May 23, 2013 3:33:16 GMT -6
mondayschild...while I agree with all your complaints about the FX site and the way they promote (NOT!) Justified...the nice thing is...awards, other than The People's Choice, aren't about us peons. The critics love Justified. They always have. They praise it almost every episode. So, I think TO has as good a chance as any of the others of winning here. And since these awards are often (although not always) precursors to the Emmys, he may have a chance of getting in there as well. Gosh, it's nice to see some new names. Not just TO, but Andrew Lincoln and Matthew Rys as well. I think Walton and Jim Beaver have great chances too! Fingers crossed. And...it IS an honor to be nominated. Think of all the deserving performances that weren't.
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Post by weegieburd on May 23, 2013 6:20:59 GMT -6
I am just amazed the programme itself isn't nominated, it really is one if not the best written show on TV
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Post by Dolphin on May 23, 2013 9:51:33 GMT -6
Could somebody here try and motivate me to take a 2nd look at The Americans? I bought the season. Watched the first 2 eps. I couldn't get into it. I tried. (I had the same experience with 'The Following.' Not my thing.)
What are the critics seeing that I'm not? Is there an episode that was ... stellar?
I've heard Keri Russell described by the critics as 'hot,' or 'like Jennifer Garner' in Alias. Personally, I think Jennifer Garner was far better, but I couldn't hang in with Alias, either. And when I see Matthew Rhys in his role, I'm not buying it.
I know some shows take some time to get into the groove. Is that what happened here? At what point in the season does Margo Martindale come in? Is she as good in this show as she was in Justified?
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Post by weegieburd on May 23, 2013 10:52:57 GMT -6
I haven't seen it at all, that's a lie, I watched about half an hour of one episode and it didn't do anything for me so I can't really help you.
I am really pissed that Downton Abbey is in the list though...I really enjoy it but it is not a patch on Justified
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Post by lbookie on May 23, 2013 10:57:19 GMT -6
I do agree that Justified is badly marketed. I know ONE other person in my "real life" that watches it. Everyone else only k ows it because I'm always yammering about it.
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Post by kentuckygal on May 23, 2013 18:43:27 GMT -6
The rubberstamped nomination for guilty pleasure Downton Abbey in lieu of a top drawer season of Justified is a disappointment. But at least the critics didn't squander any precious acting nominations on the cast---- not even perennial favorite Dame Maggie Smith. (She makes everything she's in better. But they failed to capitalize on the potential fireworks of Shirley MacLaine going toe to toe with Ms. Smith. Such a wasted opportunity.)
At least this keeps TO in the foreground as we draw close to Emmy nomination time.
I don't have cable. I download the episodes from iTunes. So I don't know how well or poorly FX promotes its shows. They did score the second most nominations after HBO. So that says something. But like others on this board, I don't know a single other soul who watches Justified or has even heard of the show! Very frustrating.
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Post by Dolphin on May 23, 2013 19:15:27 GMT -6
Downton Abbey will be in the run for Emmy Drama Series for certain. However, Hugh Bonneville does not deserve to be in the best drama actor category again. No way. I'm thrilled the critics see it that way, as well.
Besides being ecstatic for Walton Goggins' (Yay!) nomination ... I am so happy to see Michael Cudlitz honored for the last season of Southland. OMGosh, did anyone else watch? The last two episodes of the series still have me absolutely haunted. The penultimate ep was a 'Killing Fields' episode. Michael Cudlitz was outstanding in the final two episodes ... He had fantastic material to work with. As much as I LOVE Walton (and you know I do!) ... for this season, I'd have to give the win to Cudlitz for that reason alone.
Southland was a critic darling that never saw big ratings. Saved by TNT from an NBC cancellation (a la Friday Night Lights). I'm glad to see shows like Justified and Southland (and Sons of Anarchy, etc.) spotlighted by Critics Choice ... these shows and crews deserve it. And so do their fans!!
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Post by Dolphin on May 23, 2013 19:16:16 GMT -6
I haven't seen it at all, that's a lie, I watched about half an hour of one episode and it didn't do anything for me so I can't really help you. I am really pissed that Downton Abbey is in the list though...I really enjoy it but it is not a patch on Justified LOL Then, I'm not alone! lbookie, that is one hot icon you have!!! Love it.
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Post by lovejustified on May 23, 2013 19:18:13 GMT -6
Could somebody here try and motivate me to take a 2nd look at The Americans? I bought the season. Watched the first 2 eps. I couldn't get into it. I tried. (I had the same experience with 'The Following.' Not my thing.) What are the critics seeing that I'm not? Is there an episode that was ... stellar? I've heard Keri Russell described by the critics as 'hot,' or 'like Jennifer Garner' in Alias. Personally, I think Jennifer Garner was far better, but I couldn't hang in with Alias, either. And when I see Matthew Rhys in his role, I'm not buying it. I know some shows take some time to get into the groove. Is that what happened here? At what point in the season does Margo Martindale come in? Is she as good in this show as she was in Justified? Sorry, I can't really offer anything too encouraging. In spite of being a Graham Yost production, Justified it ain't. I did watch the whole season. Toward the end I kept watching simply because of the time I had already invested and in the hope that eventually all the laughably implausible plot twists would have some clever payoff. Didn't happen. The show has some pretty neanderthal views of women. I think Stan's (next door FBI agent) wife is the only female on the show who didn't sleep with somebody for secrets. Well, actually by the end so many characters, shot people, or got shot, or had near misses of almost being discovered, or had sex with boss, coworker, mole, secretary, etc. that you need a playbook to keep track. And I mean that in a bad 'the plot is ricocheting around' way, not a good 'cleverly deep intertwined story arcs' way. IMHO the degree of gratuitous sex and guns seems to be catering a little to the Charlie Sheen FX fans. At times it is so preposterous it is silly. with all due respect to Yost, if you want to watch a great spy drama watch Homeland. Margo, as the veteran Russian spy handler, is very good. Her character is one of the more believable and is very similar to Mags. Her sparring verbally and physically with Keri were some of the high points of the season. All in all it is not a bad show. It is hamburger and Justified is filet mignon. Sometimes a burger is just what you are craving. I guess the short answer to your question is that nothing very earth shaking happens later in the season. The first couple of eps. are representative of the season. If they didn't grab you then don't expect to change your opinion with additional viewing.
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Post by Dolphin on May 23, 2013 19:29:27 GMT -6
Could somebody here try and motivate me to take a 2nd look at The Americans? I bought the season. Watched the first 2 eps. I couldn't get into it. I tried. (I had the same experience with 'The Following.' Not my thing.) What are the critics seeing that I'm not? Is there an episode that was ... stellar? I've heard Keri Russell described by the critics as 'hot,' or 'like Jennifer Garner' in Alias. Personally, I think Jennifer Garner was far better, but I couldn't hang in with Alias, either. And when I see Matthew Rhys in his role, I'm not buying it. I know some shows take some time to get into the groove. Is that what happened here? At what point in the season does Margo Martindale come in? Is she as good in this show as she was in Justified? Sorry, I can't really offer anything too encouraging. In spite of being a Graham Yost production, Justified it ain't. I did watch the whole season. Toward the end I kept watching simply because of the time I had already invested and in the hope that eventually all the laughably implausible plot twists would have some clever payoff. Didn't happen. The show has some pretty neanderthal views of women. I think Stan's (next door FBI agent) wife is the only female on the show who didn't sleep with somebody for secrets. Well, actually by the end so many characters, shot people, or got shot, or had near misses of almost being discovered, or had sex with boss, coworker, mole, secretary, etc. that you need a playbook to keep track. And I mean that in a bad 'the plot is ricocheting around' way, not a good 'cleverly deep intertwined story arcs' way. IMHO the degree of gratuitous sex and guns seems to be catering a little to the Charlie Sheen FX fans. At times it is so preposterous it is silly. with all due respect to Yost, if you want to watch a great spy drama watch Homeland. Margo, as the veteran Russian spy handler, is very good. Her character is one of the more believable and is very similar to Mags. Her sparring verbally and physically with Keri were some of the high points of the season. All in all it is not a bad show. It is hamburger and Justified is filet mignon. Sometimes a burger is just what you are craving. I guess the short answer to your question is that nothing very earth shaking happens later in the season. The first couple of eps. are representative of the season. If they didn't grab you then don't expect to change your opinion with additional viewing. So, it sounds like the critics like it because 1) they think Keri Russell is hot, 2) there's a lot of guns, violence, and 3) gratuitous sex and espionage. You're right. I'm not going to like it, no matter what the critics say. (I couldn't get into Homeland, either. I'm not a spy movie fan.) Thanks for the hamburger analogy!! You are so right about Justified being filet mignon.
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Post by motorcitymade on May 23, 2013 19:39:25 GMT -6
Last time Tim and Walton were nominated Tim didn't go, but Walton, Margo, Natalie and Joelle did. I still have Margo's acceptance speech on my DVR. The whole awards show takes only an hour and folks eat lunch and drink cocktails.
Hope he goes and wins this time!
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Post by wkw99 on May 23, 2013 19:42:15 GMT -6
I have The Americans on tivo and intend to watch it this summer despite everything I just read. LOL. My best friend and her hubby couldn't stop raving about it, (and they love Justified) so I'll give it a shot.
I love Homeland. S1 was some of the best TV I've ever seen, Justified included. Claire Dains is luminous. I heard S2 was a hot mess, but we watch on dvd so I haven't seen it yet.
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Post by Dolphin on May 23, 2013 19:59:39 GMT -6
I have The Americans on tivo and intend to watch it this summer despite everything I just read. LOL. My best friend and her hubby couldn't stop raving about it, (and they love Justified) so I'll give it a shot. I love Homeland. S1 was some of the best TV I've ever seen, Justified included. Claire Dains is luminous. I heard S2 was a hot mess, but we watch on dvd so I haven't seen it yet. No disrespect intended. I know The American has a fan base. And Homeland certainly has a very big fan base. In discussing it, I think I just don't like the spy/espionage genre. Good thing I like cops and robbers!!
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Post by Dolphin on May 23, 2013 20:02:32 GMT -6
Last time Tim and Walton were nominated Tim didn't go, but Walton, Margo, Natalie and Joelle did. I still have Margo's acceptance speech on my DVR. The whole awards show takes only an hour and folks eat lunch and drink cocktails. Hope he goes and wins this time! So do I! Maybe TO will go if he's in town. This is from the first link posted: The Broadcast Television Journalists Association (BTJA) today announced nominations for the 3rd annual Critics’ Choice Television Awards, which will be held the evening of Monday, June 10, 2013 at The Beverly Hilton Hotel. For the first time the award show will be webcast live on UStream at: www.ustream.tv/channel/critics-choice-television-awards.
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Post by mondayschild on May 23, 2013 22:45:10 GMT -6
I have watched season 1 of the Americans and got quite involved. The acting is good and the stories, while sometimes farfetched by today's standards, are interesting. (The Cold War is basically over now, and for those of you who are too young to remember it, I'm sure that the premise of the show seems quite odd.) It is not in the same genre as Justified; I don't make comparisons between shows that are totally different. I have never seen Margo Martindale in a bad role, and this show is no exception. But I don't compare it to her role as Mags. Mags was a once in a lifetime role. I read recently that she has a new gig coming up on a new show.(Wish I could remember what it is.) TV Guide will follow it and I will at least tune in for an episode or two to see her because I consider her a real treasure.
I don't have HBO. If I did , I might prefer Homeland to The Americans. ( Comcast charges me almost 200.00 a month for the services that I have and I am not willing to go any further. ) I understand it is excellent and it is probably superior to The Americans, but I have no way of knowing. Clare Danes and Damian Lewis are superb actors and I am sorry to not be able to see this show. But it is what it is. I still like The Americans. There is good acting, lots of tension, and interesting storylines. Keri Russell is good, and Matthew Rhys is even better.
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Post by wkw99 on May 24, 2013 3:45:18 GMT -6
S1 of Homeland is out on DVD, mondayschild, that's how we watched it. Like I said, I'm hearing not-so-good things about S2, which ended recently, but since we don't get Showtime, we'll have to wait for those DVDs to come out. I want to watch House of Cards, Dolphin, so thanks for the heads up about the first episode. They killed a wolf-puppy in Ep 2 S1 of Game of Thrones and I never went back. (Dog-lover that you are, mcm, I'm surprised you kept watching! ) Besides, I don't like shows where I can't tell one male character from another because they're all bearded, long-haired, and sweaty. It's too frustrating to even enjoy the eye-candy.
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Post by weegieburd on May 24, 2013 5:42:34 GMT -6
The second series of Homeland wasn't as good as the first, but Damian Lewis is always watchable. Margo Martindale is in a new comedy with Beau Bridges (I think) I don't know what it's called. The original House of Cards series by the BBC was fantastic but I haven't seen the remake
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Post by kmmo on May 24, 2013 8:12:05 GMT -6
I really enjoyed The Americans. It's nowhere near as good as Justified, but it's entertaining. I remember so many of the historical things they bring up from the 80's. I'm not too impressed with Keri Russell, but I think Matthew Rhys is great. I haven't seen him in anything else, but I think he's a really good actor. I tend to like spy/espionage type shows and books. I should probably watch Homeland. It sounds like something I'd like.
Regarding FX's advertising of Justified- I can't understand why we don't hear or see more about this great show. No one else I know watches it (except for one friend that we introduced it to), or has ever even heard of it. It's aggravating. I was telling a friend at work about it, describing it and telling her she would enjoy it. She said "Oh, I don't like cop shows." Well, I could go on and on about how it's not just another "cop show".
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Post by weegieburd on May 24, 2013 9:36:02 GMT -6
It's the same over here nobody knows about it the only way folk watch it is by word of mouth, a couple of my friends have started watching it (and my husband) because I have raved about it and they love it now too.
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