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Post by motorcitymade on Sept 24, 2013 20:04:16 GMT -6
Francis, Helen, Rae-Lynne, OOps, Victoria Lappe, Art-ritha, Why NoNo.......
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Post by okeydokey on Sept 24, 2013 20:07:31 GMT -6
I like Frances as a middle name. As for first names maybe take from Palmolive and get Olivia. And I like Stella or Brooke. They both go nice with Givens.
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Post by mondayschild on Sept 24, 2013 21:10:40 GMT -6
I like Rae-Lynne. Has a certain ring to it, mcm.
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Post by wkw99 on Sept 25, 2013 3:51:33 GMT -6
I like Rae-Lynne. Has a certain ring to it, mcm. I can't see Winona naming her daughter Rae-Lynne. LOL. I like Frances, too. And Olivia from Palm olive would be funny. Maybe they'll take a play from Elmore. In the books, the boys are Ricky and Randy (and I always figured they were named for Ricky Skaggs and Randy Travis). We know she loves Kenny Chesney, maybe she'll name her Chesney. Don't laugh. It's a name. I had one in class a few years back. Or they could go the female singer route. Martina (McBride) or Faith (Hill) or Miranda (Lambert). |
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Post by Dolphin on Sept 25, 2013 4:07:11 GMT -6
I was checking out nameberry.com and babycenter.com (popular baby name sites). 'Badass' baby names for girls include: Baretta, Blaze, Harley, Hurricane, Jezebel, Jinx, Rebel, Storm, Tempest, Tornado Those who like 'Helen,' also like: Helena, Elaine, Ellen, Eleanor, Eleni Names that go with 'Helen,': Josephine, Tabitha, Abigail, Rosemary, Rebecca, Brianna, Julia, Olivia, Sarah, Catriona, Isla, Millie, Leah, Ava Sister names for Winona's favorite boy name, 'Cody': Alexis, Hannah, Ashley, Samantha, Madison, Chloe, Kaitlyn, Elizabeth, Kayla, Mackenzie, Hailey Sister names for Raylan's favorite boy name, 'Felix': Audrey, Ivy, Coco, Layla, Anabelle, Olivia, Piper, Zara, Natasha, Lola, Sasha, Lucinda, Jemima, Aurora, Gemma, Stella, Matilda, Harriet, Tabitha, Bianca, Saskia, Imogene, Claudia, Georgia, Molly, Zoe, Beatrice, Anastasia, Freya, Lucinda, Violet, Aurelia LOL I don't think Raylan would like 'Layla,' and Winona wouldn't like 'Ava.'  |
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Post by ripetebook on Sept 25, 2013 7:37:01 GMT -6
at one point Raylan seriously liked Felix but now we have a girl...Gayle? Franny? Caitlyn? (from a fan fiction)what about Winona's mom? We all turn to Helen and Frances but what about Winona's family now that she is "back home".
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Post by Dolphin on Sept 25, 2013 16:14:22 GMT -6
at one point Raylan seriously liked Felix but now we have a girl...Gayle? Franny? Caitlyn? (from a fan fiction)what about Winona's mom? We all turn to Helen and Frances but what about Winona's family now that she is "back home". Will they be traditional and name her after someone? Or will they be original, modern, on trend? Good point about her family. Does anyone know the name of their boys from the Raylan stories? Might give us a blue as to their tastes. Although the writers can do anything they wish. This waiting is hard! |
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Post by wkw99 on Sept 25, 2013 17:26:24 GMT -6
at one point Raylan seriously liked Felix but now we have a girl...Gayle? Franny? Caitlyn? (from a fan fiction)what about Winona's mom? We all turn to Helen and Frances but what about Winona's family now that she is "back home". Will they be traditional and name her after someone? Or will they be original, modern, on trend? Good point about her family. Does anyone know the name of their boys from the Raylan stories? Might give us a blue as to their tastes. Although the writers can do anything they wish. This waiting is hard! I thought I posted earlier...the boys were Ricky and Randy. I always assumed because of the dates of the books that was for Ricky Skaggs and Randy Travis. (I did..check out three posts above yours, Dolphin.  ) |
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Post by Dolphin on Sept 25, 2013 22:28:04 GMT -6
Will they be traditional and name her after someone? Or will they be original, modern, on trend? Good point about her family. Does anyone know the name of their boys from the Raylan stories? Might give us a blue as to their tastes. Although the writers can do anything they wish. This waiting is hard! I thought I posted earlier...the boys were Ricky and Randy. I always assumed because of the dates of the books that was for Ricky Skaggs and Randy Travis. (I did..check out three posts above yours, Dolphin. ) Thanks! (Sorry about that. I check out 'Recent Posts' ... I didn't go back to the original thread). That's funny about Ricky Skaggs and Randy Travis. So, would Winona name her baby girl after a female country western star? Reba, Faith, Trisha, Carrie, Taylor, Martina, Kellie, LeAnn, Gretchen, Jana, Sarah, Emily, Roseanne, Miranda? |
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Post by okeydokey on Sept 26, 2013 10:57:15 GMT -6
I thought I posted earlier...the boys were Ricky and Randy. I always assumed because of the dates of the books that was for Ricky Skaggs and Randy Travis. (I did..check out three posts above yours, Dolphin. ) Thanks! (Sorry about that. I check out 'Recent Posts' ... I didn't go back to the original thread). That's funny about Ricky Skaggs and Randy Travis. So, would Winona name her baby girl after a female country western star? Reba, Faith, Trisha, Carrie, Taylor, Martina, Kellie, LeAnn, Gretchen, Jana, Sarah, Emily, Roseanne, Miranda? Well in one of the books, I think Pronto, Raylan mentions that if they had a girl Winona had chosen Tammy, Loretta, or Piper. I think I could get on board with Piper if that's the way the writers go. |
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Post by Dolphin on Sept 26, 2013 11:10:38 GMT -6
Thanks! (Sorry about that. I check out 'Recent Posts' ... I didn't go back to the original thread). That's funny about Ricky Skaggs and Randy Travis. So, would Winona name her baby girl after a female country western star? Reba, Faith, Trisha, Carrie, Taylor, Martina, Kellie, LeAnn, Gretchen, Jana, Sarah, Emily, Roseanne, Miranda? Well in one of the books, I think Pronto, Raylan mentions that if they had a girl Winona had chosen Tammy, Loretta, or Piper. I think I could get on board with Piper if that's the way the writers go that way. Thanks, Okey! For the same reasons I don't think they would use 'Ava' or 'Layla,' I don't think they'd use 'Loretta,' either. So maybe Tammy or Piper? (I'm with you, I could handle Piper with maybe a family name as a first or a middle.) I concur with Ripetebook that Helen is not the only mom. Winona has a mom, too. Although she knows how much Raylan talks about his late mom. Was close to his mom. Will that pull any weight? Hard to say. This is Winona. |
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Post by okeydokey on Sept 26, 2013 11:22:12 GMT -6
Well in one of the books, I think Pronto, Raylan mentions that if they had a girl Winona had chosen Tammy, Loretta, or Piper. I think I could get on board with Piper if that's the way the writers go that way. Thanks, Okey! For the same reasons I don't think they would use 'Ava' or 'Layla,' I don't think they'd use 'Loretta,' either. So maybe Tammy or Piper? (I'm with you, I could handle Piper with maybe a family name as a first or a middle.) I concur with Ripetebook that Helen is not the only mom. Winona has a mom, too. Although she knows how much Raylan talks about his late mom. Was close to his mom. Will that pull any weight? Hard to say. This is Winona. Actually we don't know how much she knows about Raylan's mother or how close he was to her. She had never been to Harlan before Helen's funeral, and from the looks of it, Raylan never went to his own mother's funeral and he and Winona were married at the time. So, I'm not sure how much weight it should pull with her as Frances may be more of a stranger to Winona than she is to us viewers. |
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Post by Dolphin on Sept 26, 2013 18:34:37 GMT -6
Thanks, Okey! For the same reasons I don't think they would use 'Ava' or 'Layla,' I don't think they'd use 'Loretta,' either. So maybe Tammy or Piper? (I'm with you, I could handle Piper with maybe a family name as a first or a middle.) I concur with Ripetebook that Helen is not the only mom. Winona has a mom, too. Although she knows how much Raylan talks about his late mom. Was close to his mom. Will that pull any weight? Hard to say. This is Winona. Actually we don't know how much she knows about Raylan's mother or how close he was to her. She had never been to Harlan before Helen's funeral, and from the looks of it, Raylan never went to his own mother's funeral and he and Winona were married at the time. So, I'm not sure how much weight it should pull with her as Frances may be more of a stranger to Winona than she is to us viewers. I totally respect your view, but I'll defend mine. As a viewer, I have a deduced sense that Raylan was close to his mother. He often quotes her. He would naturally gravitate toward his mother, having Arlo as a father. Being a Southerner myself, we equate respect with love. Or better said, you can't love someone if there's first no respect. He highly respects his mother's teachings. Same with his Aunt's. (They are from the same family, not surprising.) He does not respect his father and for good reason. There was no love lost between the two of them. Raylan's mother's teachings grounded him. He must be grateful to have had that, in his upbringing. This holds regardless of his history with his mother, later. About that ... we've been kept in the dark. We don't know why Raylan didn't come home for her funeral (Or even where she was when she died ... how did she get from Point A to Point B which is her grave site?). Or if he even knew she died, at the time. I so agree with you about Frances being a stranger to Winona. And she'd be a stranger to the baby, too. But Southern tradition can run deep. (Middle names of a daughter are often one of the grandmothers' names.) Normally, a traditional Southern woman would allow her first born to take the name of the paternal grandmother. Winona is not traditional. We'll have to wait and see what these writers decided to do. With the emphasis on a long w-a-i-t. Do you think the writers spent a lot of time naming the baby? Do you think they might have asked Elmore for his thoughts before he passed? Did they choose a daughter in order to be far removed from Ricky and Travis? |
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Post by wkw99 on Sept 27, 2013 4:16:26 GMT -6
Actually we don't know how much she knows about Raylan's mother or how close he was to her. She had never been to Harlan before Helen's funeral, and from the looks of it, Raylan never went to his own mother's funeral and he and Winona were married at the time. So, I'm not sure how much weight it should pull with her as Frances may be more of a stranger to Winona than she is to us viewers. I totally respect your view, but I'll defend mine. As a viewer, I have a deduced sense that Raylan was close to his mother. He often quotes her. He would naturally gravitate toward his mother, having Arlo as a father. Being a Southerner myself, we equate respect with love. Or better said, you can't love someone if there's first no respect. He highly respects his mother's teachings. Same with his Aunt's. (They are from the same family, not surprising.) He does not respect his father and for good reason. There was no love lost between the two of them. Raylan's mother's teachings grounded him. He must be grateful to have had that, in his upbringing. This holds regardless of his history with his mother, later. About that ... we've been kept in the dark. We don't know why Raylan didn't come home for her funeral (Or even where she was when she died ... how did she get from Point A to Point B which is her grave site?). Or if he even knew she died, at the time. I so agree with you about Frances being a stranger to Winona. And she'd be a stranger to the baby, too. But Southern tradition can run deep. (Middle names of a daughter are often one of the grandmothers' names.) Normally, a traditional Southern woman would allow her first born to take the name of the paternal grandmother. Winona is not traditional. We'll have to wait and see what these writers decided to do. With the emphasis on a long w-a-i-t. Do you think the writers spent a lot of time naming the baby? Do you think they might have asked Elmore for his thoughts before he passed? Did they choose a daughter in order to be far removed from Ricky and Travis? I'm with you, dolphin...it's obvious that he holds his mother in high regard, as he does Helen, despite her marriage to Arlo. There are lots of clues to this. Raylan never disparages his mother's memory. When she's mentioned, it's always in a respectful, sometimes wistful way. He remembers the lessons she taught him. His father's comment that she was 'Francis, not Saint Frances', says that Arlo knows that Raylan held his mother in high esteem. As to naming the baby...well...I like the idea of calling her Franny. I think Winona might be more likely to choose a popular name, though, having had an unusual one herself. Anyone's guess is as good as mine. |
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Post by Dolphin on Sept 27, 2013 5:08:00 GMT -6
We could do a poll before the new season starts. Just need some nominated baby names.
So far, we have:
Frannie (After Raylan's mother)
Rae-Lynn (Correction: Kirby and Hodge have a doggy pal named Ray-lynne)
Olivia (A derivative of 'Palmolive')
Loretta (From the Raylan Stories, 'Pronto?')
Tammy (From the Raylan Stories, 'Pronto?')
Piper (from the Raylan stories, 'Pronto?')
Miranda (A nod to Country Western singers)
Martina (A nod to Country Western singers)
Faith (A nod to Country Wester singers)
Any others? We could take suggestions for a week, before making a poll?
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Post by okeydokey on Sept 27, 2013 20:47:34 GMT -6
Hey Dolphin! Sorry if what I wrote made you feel defensive. That was not my intention at all. I agree with everything you said about how Raylan feels about his mother and to what a high regard he holds her. What I was trying to say is that he, like with most things has never conveyed those feelings he's had about his mother to anyone outside of criminals like Wynn Duffy, or Wade Messer. And it just doesn't seem like he's told Winona a lot about his family history. I still wonder if he told her Arlo was dead. I personally would love if they incorporate Frances' name into the babies, if they don't just name her Frances outright.
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Post by mondayschild on Sept 27, 2013 22:26:15 GMT -6
Okay, I'm taking all of your suggestions and coming up with RayLynne Olivia.It has a certain melody to it, doesn't it?
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Post by Dolphin on Sept 28, 2013 3:08:22 GMT -6
Hey Dolphin! Sorry if what I wrote made you feel defensive. That was not my intention at all. I agree with everything you said about how Raylan feels about his mother and to what a high regard he holds her. What I was trying to say is that he, like with most things has never conveyed those feelings he's had about his mother to anyone outside of criminals like Wynn Duffy, or Wade Messer. And it just doesn't seem like he's told Winona a lot about his family history. I still wonder if he told her Arlo was dead. I personally would love if they incorporate Frances' name into the babies, if they don't just name her Frances outright. No problem, Okey. This static medium called posting and texting and emailing is pretty 2 dimensional. I'm glad you clarified and glad I did, too. I'm not attached to Helen's name, and my inkling is that Winona wouldn't name her baby after someone she doesn't know. Winona is an independent, modern gal. It's true we haven't heard Raylan talk about his mom with Winona. LOL That is funny that he talks about her to all the criminals he arrests, goes after. I just assumed Winona knows about Arlo, but we don't now that for certain. |
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