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Post by Dolphin on Jul 6, 2013 4:41:13 GMT -6
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Post by kmmo on Jul 6, 2013 10:32:09 GMT -6
Thanks for this link, Dolphin. I wasn't aware that there were any discussions about Deadwood still going on on the internet.
My husband and I watched all of Deadwood last summer. We hadn't seen it before. It was amazing and I didn't want it to end. The scenes mentioned in this review you posted were some of the best. I particularly liked what he said about TO's role. I've read so many negative things about his role in Deadwood. It's good to read something positive.
I may rewatch some this summer, if I have time. We have seasons 2 and 3 on DVD, and I think we have season 1, but I can't seem to find it.
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Post by weegieburd on Jul 6, 2013 10:44:22 GMT -6
Series 3 of Deadwood is starting yet another run on TCM tonight, this will be the third time they have shown the 3rd series but no signs of the first and second series. I'm not complaining I'll still be watching it .......again!
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Post by lbookie on Jul 6, 2013 12:29:52 GMT -6
I just finished Deadwood last month or so. It was my first run and I was SO sad to see it end. Terrific work by everyone.
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Post by Dolphin on Jul 6, 2013 16:45:19 GMT -6
Thanks for this link, Dolphin. I wasn't aware that there were any discussions about Deadwood still going on on the internet. My husband and I watched all of Deadwood last summer. We hadn't seen it before. It was amazing and I didn't want it to end. The scenes mentioned in this review you posted were some of the best. I particularly liked what he said about TO's role. I've read so many negative things about his role in Deadwood. It's good to read something positive. I may rewatch some this summer, if I have time. We have seasons 2 and 3 on DVD, and I think we have season 1, but I can't seem to find it. I think Alan is reviewing one episode a week ... wish I'd found it sooner. (I'm guessing he's done after Season 3 ... he loves the show as much as we do.) So, I'm watching the rest of Season 3 with him.  I also really like that he 'gets' Bullock and that he's aware there was a method to TO's madness (genius) in how he played Bullock, in conjunction with David Milch's input. We all know this ... that there is a difference in the way he plays Bullock, Raylan, the Sheriff in 'The Crazies.' He's come a long way since 'Go!' or 'Hitman.' He doesn't receive the props he deserves ... often enough. So, yes, this was so nice to read. |
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Post by wkw99 on Jul 6, 2013 18:33:45 GMT -6
Thanks for this link, Dolphin. I wasn't aware that there were any discussions about Deadwood still going on on the internet. My husband and I watched all of Deadwood last summer. We hadn't seen it before. It was amazing and I didn't want it to end. The scenes mentioned in this review you posted were some of the best. I particularly liked what he said about TO's role. I've read so many negative things about his role in Deadwood. It's good to read something positive. I may rewatch some this summer, if I have time. We have seasons 2 and 3 on DVD, and I think we have season 1, but I can't seem to find it. I think Alan is reviewing one episode a week ... wish I'd found it sooner. (I'm guessing he's done after Season 3 ... he loves the show as much as we do.) So, I'm watching the rest of Season 3 with him. I also really like that he 'gets' Bullock and that he's aware there was a method to TO's madness (genius) in how he played Bullock, in conjunction with David Milch's input. We all know this ... that there is a difference in the way he plays Bullock, Raylan, the Sheriff in 'The Crazies.' He's come a long way since 'Go!' or 'Hitman.' He doesn't receive the props he deserves ... often enough. So, yes, this was so nice to read. I highly recommend Alan's book The Revolution Was Televised; The Cops, Crooks, Slingers, and Slayers Who Changed TV Drama Forever. There are chapters on Deadwood and Friday Night Lights, Buffy the Vampire Slayer (all personal favorites) The Sopranos (natch), The Wire, The Shield, Lost, and others. It's an excellent read, and Justified gets a mention.  |
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Post by kentuckygal on Jul 6, 2013 19:02:41 GMT -6
Thanks for the link Dolphin. I followed this last summer, but missed the start of this summer's rewind. Thanks for the reminder.
You might also mention that Jim Beaver adds lengthy personal observations and anecdotes in the comments section of most of the episodes. He gives high praise to TO's work as Seth Bullock. Keone Young also posts his memories of working with David Milch on the show. Garett Dillahunt even popped in a few times during the season two rewind.
Another reviewer who 'gets' Bullock and the quality of TO's performance is Matt Zoller Seitz. Unfortunately most of his posted reviews were lost when the paper he worked (works?) for did a massive data dump to free up bandwidth.
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Post by Dolphin on Jul 6, 2013 22:16:13 GMT -6
I think Alan is reviewing one episode a week ... wish I'd found it sooner. (I'm guessing he's done after Season 3 ... he loves the show as much as we do.) So, I'm watching the rest of Season 3 with him. I also really like that he 'gets' Bullock and that he's aware there was a method to TO's madness (genius) in how he played Bullock, in conjunction with David Milch's input. We all know this ... that there is a difference in the way he plays Bullock, Raylan, the Sheriff in 'The Crazies.' He's come a long way since 'Go!' or 'Hitman.' He doesn't receive the props he deserves ... often enough. So, yes, this was so nice to read. I highly recommend Alan's book The Revolution Was Televised; The Cops, Crooks, Slingers, and Slayers Who Changed TV Drama Forever. There are chapters on Deadwood and Friday Night Lights, Buffy the Vampire Slayer (all personal favorites) The Sopranos (natch), The Wire, The Shield, Lost, and others. It's an excellent read, and Justified gets a mention. Thanks, wkw99! I just downloaded it. Update: Wow, I had no idea Powers Boothe was supposed to be cast as Swearengen. And that was some love letter to Friday Night Lights. |
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Post by kentuckygal on Jul 7, 2013 8:36:07 GMT -6
Update: Wow, I had no idea Powers Boothe was supposed to be cast as Swearengen. And that was some love letter to Friday Night Lights. Ed O'Neill was Milch's first choice, but HBO nixed that idea believing viewers would only see Al Bundy, not Al Swearengen. Powers Boothe was Milch's second choice, but illness prevented Boothe from taking the role after he was cast. That left the door open for other actors to audition for the role. Even though Milch had envisioned Al as a large, physically imposing man who could believably go toe-to-toe with Bullock (O'Neill and Boothe fit that bill), shortass Ian McShane walked in and blew everyone away with his command of the room. While I wouldn't trade McShane's Swearengen for another, I could see Ed O'Neill in that part. But how different would the character and the dialogue have been, not just due to O'Neill's artistic reinterpretation, but also Milch's proclivity for drawing inspiration from his actors' real lives and personalities? Sepinwall's book, The Revolution Was Televised, is an interesting read. Naturally I went straight to the chapter on Deadwood. Seeing Alan gush about Friday Night Lights made me smile, knowing how much that show is loved by several of the ladies on this board. But I have to tiptoe around many of the other shows covered, not wishing to be spoiled. (I still have not watched The Wire, despite all the acclaim and making #1 on several Best TV Show Ever lists. If only the fans of that show weren't so overbearing when posting on other message boards.  ) |
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Post by kmmo on Jul 7, 2013 9:47:25 GMT -6
Oh wow. Ed O'Neill or Power's Boothe as Al Swearingen? I just can't imagine anyone else but Ian McShane in that role. He took command of it. It probably would have been very different, but just as good with the other actors.
I need to read The Revolution was Televised. Thanks for the info ladies. I tend to be way behind on good television shows. I don't really pay attention to what's on but I do love catching up on older shows that have been around for a while. I've seen the pilot episode of The Wire, but haven't watched more.
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Post by wkw99 on Jul 7, 2013 10:09:17 GMT -6
I highly recommend Alan's book The Revolution Was Televised; The Cops, Crooks, Slingers, and Slayers Who Changed TV Drama Forever. There are chapters on Deadwood and Friday Night Lights, Buffy the Vampire Slayer (all personal favorites) The Sopranos (natch), The Wire, The Shield, Lost, and others. It's an excellent read, and Justified gets a mention. Thanks, wkw99! I just downloaded it. Update: Wow, I had no idea Powers Boothe was supposed to be cast as Swearengen. And that was some love letter to Friday Night Lights. I think that's my favorite chapter, dolphin. As much as I love Deadwood, FNL has a special place in my heart because it's so very real. |
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Post by Dolphin on Jul 7, 2013 10:38:11 GMT -6
Thanks, wkw99! I just downloaded it. Update: Wow, I had no idea Powers Boothe was supposed to be cast as Swearengen. And that was some love letter to Friday Night Lights. I think that's my favorite chapter, dolphin. As much as I love Deadwood, FNL has a special place in my heart because it's so very real. FNLs is in my heart, too, for just that reason. I know a lot about that show and still learned things I didn't know. Such as ... I didn't know Pete Berg cast both the show and the re-tool of season 4. (He's always given credit to Casting Director, Linda Lowy who received an Emmy for both FNLs and Greys Anatomy ... the Kyle Chandler connection). And we got some insight into exactly what happened at NBC. I've also heard Jason Katims be interviewed before, but not with this much condor. For instance, I've never heard him take the blame for the whole Season 2, Landry the murderer bad move. (Although that plot line must have landed Jesse Plemmons his guest spot on 'Breaking Bad.') Good book. I recommended the book over at they Kyle Chandler site, too. |
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Post by Dolphin on Jul 7, 2013 10:42:27 GMT -6
Update: Wow, I had no idea Powers Boothe was supposed to be cast as Swearengen. And that was some love letter to Friday Night Lights. Ed O'Neill was Milch's first choice, but HBO nixed that idea believing viewers would only see Al Bundy, not Al Swearengen. Powers Boothe was Milch's second choice, but illness prevented Boothe from taking the role after he was cast. That left the door open for other actors to audition for the role. Even though Milch had envisioned Al as a large, physically imposing man who could believably go toe-to-toe with Bullock (O'Neill and Boothe fit that bill), shortass Ian McShane walked in and blew everyone away with his command of the room. While I wouldn't trade McShane's Swearengen for another, I could see Ed O'Neill in that part. But how different would the character and the dialogue have been, not just due to O'Neill's artistic reinterpretation, but also Milch's proclivity for drawing inspiration from his actors' real lives and personalities? Sepinwall's book, The Revolution Was Televised, is an interesting read. Naturally I went straight to the chapter on Deadwood. Seeing Alan gush about Friday Night Lights made me smile, knowing how much that show is loved by several of the ladies on this board. But I have to tiptoe around many of the other shows covered, not wishing to be spoiled. (I still have not watched The Wire, despite all the acclaim and making #1 on several Best TV Show Ever lists. If only the fans of that show weren't so overbearing when posting on other message boards. ) I can't imagine anyone but Ian McShane in the role, either. This book also makes me want to give The Shield another try. I watched the first few eps and couldn't get into it. I've heard Season 1 takes some time to get going. It happens. Same is true of Justified. Starts off with a bang and then, goes off track for several episodes before it finally hits its stride. |
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Post by lbookie on Jul 7, 2013 10:56:46 GMT -6
Ian McShane was so perfect as Swearengen. It's one of those roles he played so perfectly you can't imagine anyone else in it. Like Robery Downey Jr as Ironman, IMO.
I have been giving The Sheild another go. I watched the first six and was completely unimpressed. Now I'm nearing the end of season 1 and I think I'm hooked. I can't say it's my favorite TV show ever, but I'm interested.
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Post by lbookie on Jul 7, 2013 10:58:22 GMT -6
And in case I haven't mentioned before, Buffy is my favorite tv show of all time. Every few years I watched the whole series all over again, seasons 1-7.
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Post by wkw99 on Jul 7, 2013 12:06:39 GMT -6
And in case I haven't mentioned before, Buffy is my favorite tv show of all time. Every few years I watched the whole series all over again, seasons 1-7. I <3 Buffy, too. I didn't watch when it aired, but did a marathon of all seven seasons one summer about five or six years ago. A friend recommended it and boy, was she right!  |
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Post by lbookie on Jul 7, 2013 21:42:01 GMT -6
I watched it all throughout high school and college. It had a huge impact on me. I watched it in some of my formative years and Buffy was my hero. I still want to be a kick ass super chick. :-) I was gaga over Spike back in the day but as I got older, I became more of an Angel fan. I feel like everytime I watch the series I'm a little older, a little wiser, and my opinions and feelings towards the characters change. I can't believe it hasn't been released on Blueray yet. Shame on you, WB.
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Post by mondayschild on Jul 7, 2013 22:17:17 GMT -6
ibookie, my kids and my nieces loved Buffy and Angel. They used to buy various seasons for each other as gifts. I think it's generational, but having said that, we recommend series to each other and expand our thinking and enjoyment of lots of genres. I can't get into everything that the younger generation loves, nor can they get into mine. But we do agree on quite a few things. I am very grateful for the suggestions that our members make. Some I take and some I don't because they just don't ring my chimes. But I feel that my horizons are expanded by being here.
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Post by weegieburd on Jul 8, 2013 1:31:05 GMT -6
I absolutely loved Buffy.....from the music to the brilliant dialogue, I thought it was so smart, and the female protagonist.....brilliant!
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Post by kmmo on Jul 8, 2013 8:26:08 GMT -6
I haven't watched Buffy, but I do love Joss Whedon's Firefly. It was only around for one season. My husband and I rewatch it every once in a while. Nathan Fillion makes a great charming space cowboy. It's just so well written and interesting.
It falls into that category like Deadwood- people ask "why the f*ck was this show cancelled?"
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